I am asked to develop some applications for PDA devices. I would like to the difference between LabVIEW PDA toolkit and the LabVIEW mobile Module. I tried to install LabVIEW PDA on my laptop but I see there is only LabVIEW Mobile Module available in the disc( LabVIEW 2010).

Does that mean there is no more LabVIEW PDA and NI has added the features of LabVIEW PDA in the Mobile Module?

Please help..!!! I need to buy a license for that.

Thanks for your time..!!

Sharon

Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for design patterns when using PDA type devices and LabVIEW?

Obviously screen real estate is tight, so to view data for our app I will need multiple screens (and therefore an Engine/API to manage them).

Compared to things I do in standard LabVIEW the PDA environment seems really limited - i.e. no VI Server for interacting with the screen etc...

Can any post their experiences/ideas?

And anything that would improve the usability of such a UI (i.e. from a user's perspective).

Cheers

-JG

Does anybody have an idea.

Ton

My latest stab at the bleeding edge of LabVIEW capabilities has brought me to yet another question for which I haven't found an answer... Does the PDA module take advantage of the fact that Win CE is a deterministic OS or are thread prioritization and interrupt servicing isolated by the RTE from the OS? My hunch is that LV PDA doesn't make use of the deterministic capabilities of CE, but I really hope I'm wrong.

Chris

Practical Physics, LLC

http://forums.ni.com...uireLogin=False

this post suggests that some DLL files might be missing, such as

• commctrl.dll
• commdlg.dll
• COREDLL.dll
• ole32.dll
• WINSOCK.dll
• WS2.dll

So need to install Window CE SDK. I tried this path, downloaded the CE 5.0 SDK, but how to install the package into my MC1000. I copied the Microsoft Pocket PC 2003 SDK intaller package, but cannot run the installation, says requiring another application to run the installer. So now the question is how I install a program in a PDA.

I have LabVIEW 2009 and Mobile Module 2009, and a Motorola running on Window CE5.0. PDA is totally a new territory, so I hope anyone who has gone through this would share some thoughts here. Thanks.

My customer is building a tool based on a PDA (the HP iPAQ, as it happens). He wants me to build a companion application that runs on a PC that will, among other things, rebuild the PDA application should something happen to it.

I thought of using the Project API to access and execute the correct build specification, but none of the Project API methods/properties appear to be available from LabVIEW Run-Time. Does anyone know of a workaround?

Thanks in advance!

I would like to localize my PDA application (LabView 8.6 PDA module)

but I don't have any clue how to change the label of a string indicator control.

Label.Text results in errors at runtime and Caption.Text results in an compiler error.

I dont't want to use an extra string indicator control and use the value property because the control is always drawn with a border on the PDA.

I need a label control, where I am able to change the text at runtime!

Thanks,

Dirk

Thanks

I know desktop OS. System Exec.vi can run the third application (EXE), and I want to know how PDA realizes this ? thanks.

I need to create a PDA version of my software and here is the situation: It is a server client application which works over DSTP protocol for communication. But the labVIEW PDA module does not support DSTP protocol so: I must create a PDA client which reads data using TCP protocol.

So to simplify, the scope here is: To create a TCP client who reads data from DSTP server!

I suppose that I should start working with winsock in order to implement manually TCP/IP communication with the DSTP server which is broadcasting waveform data on port 3015?

I have tried with basic TCP vi's but after successful opening of the connection I am receiving error 66 from TCP read data vi.

Thank you!

I made a small application to my Acer N311 PDA by LabVIEW PDA 8.2 and the application should communicate with a PLC (brand: Moeller). My PDA has a syncron cable wich is IRCOMM --> USB. The PLC has a Serial cable with female plug.

My question is: how can I connect to this two ends? So the USB and a female Serial. I know there is plenty of solution for this kind connection like USB to serial cable, but the thing what is not so clear for me, I have to connect that 3rd cable and that's all? or I have to configure something on my application like RxD or TxD?? because the USB has only 4 pin and the serial has 9.

So my question is I have to use a nullmodem cable so the RD and the TD have to be crossed or simply and soleny I have to connect this 3 cable and everything is working automaticle?

Thanks in advice.

B.R.

Z

1q) the serial sync cable Can i use serial communicaton b/t PDa and my microcontroller device?

fIfserial communication b/t pda and other device , is thier an USb to serial converter is require.

Can u plz sugget the pda model and conneter for above requirment

I see two evident use cases. First remote controlling LabVIEW software running on some remote server so that the mobile phone would act as a remote control tool. LabVIEW for Symbian would make writing wireless remote control software easy and straight forward.

Second mobile phonses could be used as wireless data acquisition devices. No additional computer would be needed if the measurement software could be ran on the mobile phone itself. USB cable or Bluetooth connection could be used to connect the acquisition card to the mobile phone. Of course LabVIEW for Symbian would need to include the driver for the acquisition card and mobile phones need to be charged all the time. However phones consume so little energy that an external battery would keep data aquisition up and running for long times, so not even electricity would be required if somebody just periodically replaces the external battery. There would be number of telematic machine-to-machine applications that waits for an easy to use development environment. It would be extremely easy to write for example a logistic software for a transportation compnay with LabVIEW for Symbian.

I am interested in getting some performance benchmarks on LV running under Windows CE. I would think that, in theory, it

should be possible to achieve real time performance in the league of LVRT which runs under the VXworks OS. I went looking

in the LVPDA 8.5 help for details on the implementation of the timed loop but could not find anything except some mention that

while loops execute with cooperative multitasking with a 50ms timeslice. I hope that is not the upper end of performance!

Mike Sachs

viScience

I know NI doesn't have it available anymore and that is why I am asking. I don't need or want their support, I just need the toolkit for my own use on my own Palm TX.

Thanks in advance,

Craig

I'm working on a simple datalogger software for an iPaq that use a CF-6004 for acquire external signal.

What I'm trying to do now is to get the Cf-6004 serial number in order to protect unatorized use of the software.

I had already used this method on PCs and PCI daq card, but with the PDA module and the DaqMx base I'm not able to get this information!

Anyone know if it is possible? Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance!

Osvaldo

I am kinda new to the whole scene. I want to design a wireless remote control of a central heating over Wi-Fi. Any suggestions would help.

Thanks in advance.

i get an error message when i trying to build an aplication in pocket pc emulator.

I have the ppt8800 model of SYMBOL.

I have install the ActiveSync,microsoft embedded visual C++ 4.0,microsoft pocket pc 2003 SDK.

The Error that it show me is this:

{

'cl' is not recognized as an internal or external command,

operable program or batch file.

'link' is not recognized as an internal or external command,

operable program or batch file.

}

If anyone can help me...Thank you!!

U can Contact with me in 

Lespero@hotmail.com

The LV PDA module allows you to write applications for PDAs running Windows CE and (in 8.x) allows you to send SMS if your device supports it. If you want general info about sending SMS, you will need some other solution. Searching for SMS here and in the NI forums should give you some results. You should be aware that the PDA module (at least the last version I used) produces buggy executables and you usually need to do some extra work to get your applications working as you want.

The current LV version is 8.5 (although I'm not sure if it's been announced yet and it will probably be a few months before you can get the toolkits) and you should be aware that there are a lot of changes to the environment which will require a lot of adjusting. I suggest you download the evaluation version from NI's site and play around with it. It is a fully functional version of LV which will work for 30 days. In fact, if you buy LV, you only need to activate the version you already installed.

I suggest you also talk with your local NI office, because they can probably give you specific details which will be relevant to you.

NI Discussion forum

Thanks in advance.

Rumcajs

has anyone allready got the LV PDA Module V 8.20 ? In my August issue of the DevSuite there was only a CD with the LV PDA Module 8.0 for PocketPC.

Or: has anyone information, when this version will start shipping?

Thx,

CB

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Thanks,

Nick Powers

I'm just about to start investigating the world of the PDA to collect Analogue data. I was hoping to use the USB DAQ devices, and simply connect it up to a PDA that supports USB host connections. I am having trouble finding a local supplier (Australia) that has PDA's with the USB host functionality.

I currently trying to get information for the Fujistu-Siemens LOOX models - none of which are being imported in to Australia. I don't really want to go and buy one to find out that they don't work with the NI USB DAQ devices.

Has anyone gone down this path that could recommend hardware?

Any suggestions/recommendations welcomed.

Cheers,

Ray.

I am about to undertake a project which will require the use of labview on a pda. Although I have been using labview for quite a long time, I am all at sea when it comes to porting over to PDA's.

Currently I use Labview 7.1 on a desktop PC, but am stunned by the amount of information regarding this topic, and don't know where to begin.

Could somebody explain to me what basic requirements are necessary such as.....type of PDA (not model, although anybody with recommendations, please do so)....O/S running on the PDA.....labview software. etc.

I realise the broadness of this query, but anybody with successful experience in getting a system running are welcome to respond.

BTW...the system will be used in remote machine monitoirng (digital i/o control, and analog data monitoring.

Thanks for any assistance and forebearance with my ignorance

Regards

Ray

I have a problem in creating run time menu options in Lab VIEW PDA 8.0. Its saying "WinMAIN Vi or a c file is missing" when i start to build the application. Actually I am using touch panel to deploy my application. Because of less space over there I want to avoid the buttons in the panel. Is there any other best way to create menu options other than run time short cut menus?

Please help me

Thank you in advance..

Geeta Hegde

I am again working with the PDA Module. allthough there are some mayor improvements [at least I hope so ], the PDA Module still needs some work ...

here is a list of features, I am missing in the LV 8.20 PDA Module:

I'd like to have - at least -

• a "Panel Close / Pane Close" event in the event structure. I understand that not *all* events can be supported, but this one matters!
  
• the ability to set the size of the Window - now all VIs (even "home brew" dialogs) have the same size: full size
  
• the name, appearing in the title bar should be the String set in "VI-Properties"->Window Name, and NOT as now, the VI File Name without .vi
  

I'd like to build some software for my pda (Windows Mobile 2005), but I can't find the option to biuld it for a PDA. In the help is written that it's operate->switch Execution target->Select Target with Options

But there is no "Switch Execution Target" in my operate menu.

Update

Readme

The bad news are: If you want Windows Mobile 5 Support, you need a Visual Studio 2005 License. I'm not very amused about that, because I think a toolset, which costs about 1200 Euros should contain all tools needed for developing and deploing

Besides: VS 2005 Pro costs about 1200 euros, too ...

What do you think about that?

cheers,

CB

I have built a large application for Windows with loads of references and reference nodes. Is there an "easy" way porting that to WinCe? Or do I have to rewrite the whole code?

I have no idea about the differences in function variety.

I just don't want to buy the PDA-Module just for trying!

I suppose there is no hack to make a Win-exe run on PDA?

Thanks

I have to implement an application for PDA, this application have to read the information sended by a GPS and show this information in the PDA.

I want to know how I can implement serial port communication.

If anybody can help me I will be very grateful.

THANKS!!!!

I want to purchase a PDA, I have Labview 8.0 and all related softwares for PDA 8.0 too ( i have used them previously with Pocket PC 2003). Now the PDA's seems to have Windows mobile 2005 for which we need to purchase microsoft visual studio 2005. Is it required to purchase MS visual studio or can i use PDA 8.0 with softwares for pocket PC 2003 and still work on PDA with windows mobile 2005.

Has any body worked on this configuration PDA 8.0 on Windows mobile 2005 and how workable is this configuration, or should i purchase microsoft visual studio 2005 and PDA 8.0.1?.

Best Regards,

Bipin M

Again demonstrating my ignorance...

I am using a mapping app called OziExplorerCE on a PDA.

THis comes with a simple API which I would like to use from LabVIEW - you can look at it here

http://64.71.184.220/ozice/ozice_api_docs.html

All I need to do is

1. Write data to a text file (easy - even I can do that!)

2. "Send a message to OziExplorer with the correct command number to do the Command"

An example of this from VB is:

Result = SendMessage(OziWindow, WM_USER + 5, Me.hwnd, 101)

How can I do this from LV PDA 7.1?

I had a look at an example on the NI site here:

http://sine.ni.com/apps/we/niepd_web_displ...source=External

This uses a Call Library Function Node which appears simple, but it appears to need a whole heap of complexity with the DLL & Visual c++ code associated with it.

Is it really this complicated?

Is there a simple way of doing it?

Any pointers greatfully received.

Cheers,

Phil

It comes up with

App failed.

Error code 172649003.

Unable to lock memory chunk.

It seems to be associated with de-queuing a string (inside a state machine) and converting it to an int.

If I delete this code, the error goes away, but of course my app wont work either

Anybody else had this problem?

Is there a definitive source of these error codes for PDA?

Thanks,

Phil

The top one contains serial read / write (not using VISA becaase it's going to run on a PDA eventually)

The lower one contains a simple generator to send periodic commands to the serial port (now just wired to the loop iteration counter).

The generator send data to the serial loop using queues.

Problem - the serial loop should just free run accoring to it's timed wait, as it has done in other VIs I've written, and 5x the speed of the Generator loop.

BUT it doesn't! It only runs after each completion of the generator loop.

What am I missing - probably something very simple!

BTW I'm using LV 7.1

Thanks,

Phil

I'm using Labview 7.1 with the version 7.1 PDA module. I was told by NI that this combination supports bluetooth communications. When I try to use the NI bluetooth examples on the PDA (pocketpc 2003) it tells me it can't load Bluetooth Library LVBtw.dll. :headbang:

I realise after that my pocket pc (eten m500) don't have the widcomm (BTW-CE). I don't know if I can setup the required (BTW-CE 1.4) in my pocket pc. Can anyone shed some light on this issue or tell me where I can get BTW-CE to make labview happy? and

I'm using Labview 7.1 (PocketPC2003) on Win XP.My Task ist to make a ECG for Pocket(PDA).The Problem is how can i read a

measured data(in ASCII txt. file) and convert the String data in Array and wired the Array with PDAWaveformchart.So far i made a example but it doesn't work correctly.Anybody an Idea? :headbang:

Thnx!!

Download File:post-4493-1142871706.vi

bassically it was working but i decieded to make some changes to the source code and when i downloaded it again i keep getting the following error.

app failed. error code 71147003 Unable to lock memory chunk

all changes to the source code where carried out using the correct execution target.

i have tried downloading the orginal exe back onto the PDA and i still get the same error.

i have hard reset the PDA but this still hasn't cured the problem.

has anyone seen this before??

i'm not sure whether the problem is due to the labview PDA module getting corupt or the PDA has decied to die.

any help will be gratefully recieved

many thanks in advance

Chris

I know that LV PDA 7.0 isn't compatible with it but wasn't sure about the latest version.

Thanks in advance!

i'm using LabVIEW PDA Module in developing an application that can read barcodes. My application was intended to use a barcode scanner to read the barcode and then send it to my application running in the PDA using bluetooth. The problem happened when i tried to download and execute my application to the PDA. The following error appeared on the PDA: "Bluetooth ERROR - Unable to load Bluetooth library LVBtw.dll". After reading some docs, i realised that the problem was that LabVIEW PDA Module only works with WIDCOMM drivers and my PDA has Microsoft drivers. I even considered installing the WIDCOMM drivers on my PDA but it is not possible. As you can imagine this is a big problem to my application.

I would to know why there this limitation and if there will a future solution for this limitation.

I don

-John

I was trying to put a picture (icon) on the OK control button, which looks allright when designing the front panel (customize).

After building the application there was no icon, but just an empty box, visable on the PDA itself?!

My goal is to have a menu with icons which can be clicked.

Has anybody an idea how to solve this?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards.

When programming an application with the PDA module for Labview 7.1 I discovered that the Front Panel is not easy to set for a PDA screen size.

When dragging and dropping controls etc within the front panel the window is resized and/or moved and has to resized and moved afterwards to have a nice centered and full screen when building the application.

Does someone experienced this as well and maybe has some ideas and/or work arounds for this?

Any help will be welcome. Thanks in advance.

I don't have very much LabView experience, but I'm writing an PDA application which calls functions from a DLL.

So far so good.

But I want to call some of the functions non-blocking. So LabView will continue with it's wait loops etc.

Will this be possible?

I tried:

* "reentrant" on the DLL caller.

* Created a subVI for only calling the DLL function. And set "Execution" to data aquisition thread.

The GUI is responsible while calling a function from a DLL (so looks like some thread are started after all) But the while loops etc are stalled.

Can somebody help me, make my app perfect?

I need to know the steps to install it labview pda.

Regards

NI support response can be read here.

The function can be "borrowed" from a Windows VI that is open and still works. Just drag it from the Windows VI to the PDA VI.

Ed

I have developed an application and made a .exe (LV - 7.1 PDS)+ installer, the OS is Win XP. I have an ARM processor with WinCE OS running on it. Will my LabVIEW application run on it. Can I install the runtime engine in first case???

Sony has decided to focus on PDA phones and HP is following suit. PDA's with PCMCIA support will be few and far between. Some industrial companies will continue to make ruggedized PDA's with card slots but they will be in the $2K - $3K range.

Takes all the fun out of creating applications for what was a $300.00 device. :thumbdown:

What's the current PDA of choice capable of supporting an NI PCMCIA DAQ card, preferably with WiFi built in?

Thanks for replies,

Dave

cosm5432_ctlid missing VI or C file

if i delete the tab container i dont get any errors and it builds with no trouble and downloads onto the PDA no problems

can anyone on here shed any light on this problem

where can i find this missing file/VI i have searched the NI website but have drawn a blank

thanks in advance

Thanks

Prasad