pawhan11

Great book about git in general:

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2

Thanks, it seems that PXIe-8381 and PCIe-8381 go for 3k USD . That should be sufficient for our needs, we will get strong workstation for 2,max 3k USD

We are looking for best way to get rid of PXI controller, due to high cost, low performance and issues with IT policies within company.

From what I see the best way is to use thunderbolt PXIe-8301. I ve seen many notebooks with TB3 but no desktop PCs. Are there other ways what will be cheaper than PXI controller?

Thanks!

Theme option would be huge improvement, green 🙂, dark or custom configured

https://forums.ni.com/t5/NI-TestStand-Idea-Exchange/Dark-theme-background-color-for-TestStand-and-MAX/idi-p/3927698

It seems we must give more kudos and hope that someone will implement this...

I guess it is time to reopen some ideas from idea exchange marked resolved in NXG

I am glad that didn't ve time to install NXG 😀

Did You guys have any problems with labview CLI when setting up CI? Or it is just me doing something wrong somewhere. So far I ended up with powershell script that based on params triggers builds, runs caraya tests and creates simple zip package with binaries. What I see is that sometimes build fails one time and when retried works fine when no change to code was made, sometimes cli can not connect to laview. Another problem that i encountered is fact that labview build destination is absolute path, not relative and has to be updated in lvproj xml files. I fear that when we spin off dedicated vm to run those builds it will fail due to potential LV 'problems'. 

I had the same issue with svn and externals. One app pointed to branch of another component. It was a mess when managing this in long run.

Now when we do transition to git, i try to find alternative solution. So far the most reasonable is pulling component binaries to project that needs them via nuget package or g package manager. From what i see NIPM installs package globally for PC, not per project. 

In one project we had setup with CVT ppl in main app, main all loaded plugins by PPLs and those plugins get/set some data in this CVT lib. It worked fine without problems. This CVT was based on simple FGV.

Hello,

I ve moved from LV2018 to LV2020 and it seems that position of Clean Up Wire changed from:

To:

Can this be changed somehow? I end up creating constants now and have to click multiple times 

I want to leave svn behind as soon as possible because current repo structure that was tailored many years ago in my organisation. We have one svn server with one svn project and inside that project people created folders for multiple projects... i once found there labview iso image. After 2 years working with that i still have no idea where to find something.  🙂

I guess I could migrate to another svn and do it right this time. I want git because local repo is big benefit for offline work that is more common these days. Another reason would be to keep up with technology progress. All sw companies that i know use git.

For project management we have Jira and it will probably stay that way. Ability to define custom workflows solves many problems for other teams, like projects for equipment calibration, maintenance, production support work really well. We do not have make custom tailored software to manage this. I tried to do this in gitlab and failed.

@JB_1592 what was wrong with Bitbucket? Now I am in migration process from svn to git and still considering options.

Thx @Rolf Kalbermatter, is there any magic trick that will allow me to use absolute path instead of relative when they have common root? Or define list of paths where PPL will try to find dependencies? I can edith this in lvlroj file but after save it is replaced back to relative. If I place lvlibp in lvlib folder it will be resolved using tag?

@Mefistotelis those special tags like <vilib> are somehow predefined in LV? Can I create my own custom tags that LV will understand? Or something like probing or assemblyresolve in c#?

Problem i am trying to address is that i ve 2 applications and one has public.lvlibp interface that can be used by another one. To make this work app 2 must have relative path to public.lvlibp after build and deployment... 

@Mefistotelis did You by any chance see how paths to dependencies are stored inside exe/packed libraries? Now I have to move entire hierarchy of PPLs to make this work. What is interesting if dependent PPL is stored on another drive it uses absolute path instead of relative...

http://app.demand.ni.com/e/es?s=639&e=17913049&elqTrackId=cd4e1a672bd3414185c4e68e5821a56b&elq=ba1694ec37624efd8452000b1a1acd52&elqaid=128974&elqat=1&elqah=198028565C2A04D58BD500075DF7F3C1A735F699FED740AFD86BBA37B078F6D5

I work 5 years as labview 'developer' and when someone from other technologies asks me how this compiles and really works my answer is i ve no idea.   When on the  other side open technologies give much deeper ride and control. It might be due to my limited understanding of LV but detailed information is not there on official NI forums. I guess it is up to discussion if You need low level understanding how LV or other technology works. In my case as sw engineer I always want to know how things work, and the longer i work as engineer i realize i ve no idea how 90% of things work   

I guess User Interface can be fixed and adjusted later without breaking changes, the same for function groups and shortcuts (or i hope it can be). If they deliver more fundamental things that are pain in CG like problems with relative build paths, unicode, sealed classes, packed libraries linkage, building of multiple layers of libraries without killing labview, out of the box support for source control systems & diff/merge operations... i would for sure try it.

edit

btw, i ve just found this 'hidden gem':

https://github.com/mefistotelis/pylabview

Some of my thoughts after working 6 years as 'Labview Developer'

• Popular languages like python or c# gained so much momentum, entry level is much easier than few years ago, it will get closer to LV entry level
• LV did not change much over last 6 years, things that I remember were maps, sets, vims and independent runtime engine
• paid and closed source kills any chances of becoming more popular, in my opinion it is ok to pay but for addons like ML or DSP, if i recall at some point excel addon required payment
• decline in job offers in LV, I ve seen more and more python/.net  in test eng field (at least in Europe)
• source control is terrible with binary files compared to text diffs & history available in text IDEs
• cheaper hardware alternatives like Advantech, I would never buy average PXI controller for 8k, when you can get high end workstation + Thunderbolt card + chassis
• I no longer see LV skills valuable on the market and started to do more text based programming

Hello,

Cross post from NI forums. I have more than 200VIs having the same problem.

I have tried to replace by scripting or quick drop but no success.  Delete and require is hard to do from scripting top maintain connection pane and others form what i ve seen so far. Have You ever seen this error? I do not recall doing some extraordinary class manipulations when this error happened 

Class.zip

Problems I have with event structure is that it exposes back userevent. Nothing stops user from self generating events or closing this reference. 

@Neil Pate 

Did You move completely from Atlassian products?  Did You find better alternatives for Jira or Confluence? 

Do You know if NXG is intended for windows platform only? Will it support using libraries written in .net core?

Looks like existing Compare tool, hope it will be integrated into ide  

Hello,

How are You guys working with diffs and merges in LabVIEW? Or when You simply want to check what changed in specific VI?

Recently I ve been doing more text based programming and LabVIEW is so far behind when it comes to code revision management, in fact it makes team work on big project very hard. The best what we can do now is binary diff of VI. I know there is this LVCompare app but this is not enough. Wouldn't be ince if NI integrated LV IDE with SVN and GIT source code control??

For me it was easier to pass full exam one more time. It is very hard to prepare for multiple choice questions, they ask about xcontrols that I never use and some details about polymorphic vis that noone needs. For full exam You can prepare at home, 60% of the framework that must be preapred is always the same.