@BryanThanks for the info, I tried multiple methods to get CE going again but none worked. This is CE on a MAC (my personal computer) which as far as I can tell is no longer supported. It sucks they force you to update the CE version and will not let you simply use the CE version you have. I have a work windows PC that I have a LV2021 perpetual license for though I have kept CE off that computer since that one is my commercial use dev machine and it works. I dont want NI to update packages (during CE install) on it that break my 2021 dev environment.