REM1

Gentle reminder...please do not discuss the beta on the LAVA forums. We have a private forum at ni.com specifically for that purpose. Discussing it here not only violates that NDA that you signed to get access to the beta but it makes my staff sad. Don't do that to Lisa.

The software is now available.

Same name, both places

Hi Robert

The only (windows) software I can download is the Platform DVD2. Platform DVD1 gives an error and 32bit and 64bit are empty?

Is there any reason for this? - I will try again later tho.

Cheers

JG

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Seems my Google Chrome can't see the downloads?

IE8 is working tho so I am happy

Cheers

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I'm unclear on this. Are you saying that IE8 solves all the problems you listed here?

If you are unable to see the 32bit and 64bit files to download, please try reloading your browser window. I find that this usually corrects the issue.

As promised, we have begun posting the beta software. If you've waited for this prior to applying for the beta, now is your time.

I'd have gotten around to putting the announcement on LAVA, honest.

As an FYI...I put the announcement up on ni.com a week or so before the software will be available for download to give people the opportunity to apply for the beta, gain access to the private message board and read all the cool announcements from the developers about the stuff that's in the upcoming version. Once the software is actually posted for download I put up an announcement on LAVA, inform NI marketing, etc. to bring in additional people.

As a further FYI...we accept almost everyone into the beta. People who will be automatically excluded from participation are:

• People working for known competitors (you really don't want in the beta anyway since it creates a legal nightmare)
• People who provide obviously false information in the application
• People to whom the US government will not permit us to export - as a side note to this, the service we use to test this requires that we input western (basically English) characters so if you apply using other characters you will get an email from my assistant requesting that you provide the necessary info in a manner we can use to perform this task. If you give us an unreachable email we will not be able to contact you and you will not be accepted into the beta.

Having said all that...jgcode's post is correct and you can apply for the beta now.

Regards,

Robert

NI is considering support for software and hardware on the Microsoft Windows Server OS. To help evaluate the priority of adding Windows Server support, NI is coordinating a brief pilot program to get feedback from users. If you are interested in running your applications based on NI software and hardware on Windows Server, you are invited to register for participation in the NI Windows Server pilot.

You can register by visiting http://www.ni.com/beta and selecting "National Instruments Support for Windows Server" from the list of beta programs. Please complete the profile questions that will help us understand your experience and use cases for using Windows Server. Please make sure you agree to the terms and conditions of the program so that you can be approved.

As part of this pilot program, you will have access to a a private discussion forum set up for users to discuss support for LabVIEW and NI drivers on Windows Server. Note: NI is not releasing new versions of software and drivers for this pilot. Instead, we ask that you install and test the latest releases of NI software (e.g. LabVIEW 2009 and compatible modules, toolkits and drivers) on Windows Server, and provide feedback on any issues you find.

Greetings,

You are invited to register for participation in the LabVIEW 2009 Platform beta program.

You can register by visiting http://www.ni.com/beta and selecting "LabVIEW 2009 Platform" from the list of beta programs. Please complete the profile questions that will help us understand your experience and use cases with LabVIEW. Make sure you agree to the T&C of the beta program so that you can be approved.

After you register, please be patient for the beta coordinators to process your application. You will be notified when you have been approved. Registration does not necessarily guarantee you a position in the beta program. Determination of acceptance into the program is up to the sole discretion of National Instruments.

We will have a private section of the Discussion Forums on NI Developer's Exchange set up for beta users to discuss the beta version of the LabVIEW 2009 Platform.

What software is planned to be available? Note: not all software will be available during the first beta period.

• LabVIEW (32-bit) Windows / Mac / Linux
  
• LabVIEW (64-bit) Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW RT Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW FPGA Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW DSC Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Touch Panel Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Microprocessor SDK Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Control Design & Simulation Module Windows / Mac / Linux
  
• LabVIEW Statechart Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Mobile Module Windows Only
  
• Vision Development Module Windows Only
  
• Application Builder for Windows Windows Only
  
• VI Analyzer Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Report Generation Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Database Connectivity Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Internet Toolkit Windows Only
  
• RT Execution Trace Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Desktop Execution Trace Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Digital Filter Design Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Advanced Signal Processing Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Motion Assistant Windows Only
  
• PID Tookit Windows Only
  
• Simulation Interface Toolkit Windows Only
  
• System Identification Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Adaptive Filter Tookit Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Signal Express Windows Only
  
• Unit Test Framework Windows Only
  

We eagerly await your registration. Thank you for your invaluable help in assisting us design and test LabVIEW.

You are invited to register for participation in the LabVIEW 64-bit Pioneer Beta Program.

This is the first beta of LabVIEW as a native 64-bit application on Windows Vista x64. The primary advantage of LabVIEW as a native 64-bit application is the ability to address larger amounts of memory. This is critical in applications that manipulate large datasets. We hope to open LabVIEW to a broad range of applications by adding this capability.

Prospective beta testers should be aware that since this is essentially a port of LabVIEW to a new platform, early betas will be less complete than early betas of recent 32-bit LabVIEW releases. However, we believe they will be complete enough for most use cases. Beta testers should expect a much longer beta period than has been typical for recent 32-bit LabVIEW releases so that the development team can respond to feedback.

You can register by visiting and selecting "LabVIEW 64-bit Pioneer" from the list of beta programs. Please complete the profile questions that will help us understand your experience and use cases with LabVIEW. Be sure you agree to the T&C of the beta program so that you can be approved.

After you register, please be patient for the beta coordinators to process your application. You will be notified when you have been approved. Registration does not necessarily guarantee you a position in the beta program. Determination of acceptance into the program is up to the sole discretion of National Instruments.

We will have a private section of the Discussion Forums set up for beta users to discuss the LabVIEW 64-bit Pioneer Beta.

QUOTE (REM1 @ Apr 4 2008, 06:56 PM)

I believe your interpretation of the rules is correct but I will verify this when I return to the office on Monday.

Once the release is made public you may talk about your general impressions of the release but discussion of the beta is still forbidden. Please remember, however, that some bug fixes go in after we post the last beta.

QUOTE (Val Brown @ Apr 4 2008, 04:48 PM)

So I understand that being the case DURING the beta program but presumably the actual release is at least as good as the beta and the "good" experiences of that could perhaps be posted just to say things like, yes I really liked...

I believe your interpretation of the rules is correct but I will verify this when I return to the office on Monday.

QUOTE (TobyD @ Apr 4 2008, 05:23 PM)

You are correct on all of your statements, both explicit and implied.

QUOTE(tcplomp @ Mar 3 2008, 01:08 PM)

The language part is not 30 MB, I have never looked into it but some countries/industries/people really rely on own-language apps.

5 MB each for English, Simplified Chinese, French, German, Japanese and Korean

Hmm, RTE can also be run-time engine. And there I would expect to have OO runtime support, otherwise you couldn't run executables that use OO. But I agree the runtime support for that won't be extereme in size.A lot of what the run-time engine adds to the system are in fact secondary things such as multi language support for it's dialogs and runtime texts, Intel Math Kernal Library, Service Locator, Logos Sybsystem, etc. etc. Most of them not strictly necessary but using some seemingly harmless functionality could already depend on one or more of these.Rolf Kalbermatter

In 7.1, lvrt.dll was 5716 KB as opposed to 10577 KB in 8.5In 7.1, language resource files accounted for 0 as opposed to 30 MB in 8.58.5 also includes the browser plugin, project provider framework, DNCInterface, a PSP browser dll, and several other dlls who's function I do not know.

Greetings,

You are invited to register for participation in the LabVIEW Platform 8.6 Beta program.

You can register by visiting and selecting "LabVIEW Platform" from the list of beta programs. Please complete the profile questions that will help us understand your experience and use cases with LabVIEW. Make sure you agree to the T&C of the beta program so that you can be approved.

After you register, please be patient for the beta coordinators to process your application. You will be notified when you have been approved. Registration does not necessarily guarantee you a position in the beta program. Determination of acceptance into the program is up to the sole discretion of National Instruments.

We will have a private section of the Discussion Forums on NI Developer's Exchange set up for beta users to discuss the beta version of the LabVIEW Platform 8.6.

You will have noticed that I am referring to this beta program as being for the LabVIEW Platform rather than being for LabVIEW. Let me take a moment to explain what this difference means. For the first time, National Instruments will place LabVIEW and most of its Modules and Toolkits into the same beta program. One registration, one place to file bug reports, one forum, and one beta coordinator sending you emails.

So, exactly what software is planned to be available? Note: not all software will be available during the first beta period.

• LabVIEW Windows / Mac / Linux
  
• LabVIEW RT Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW FPGA Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW DSC Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW PDA Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Touch Panel Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Embedded Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Blackfin Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW DSP Module Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Control Design & Simulation Module Windows / Mac / Linux
  
• LabVIEW Statechart Module Windows Only
  
• VI Analyzer Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Report Generation Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Database Connectivity Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Internet Toolkit Windows Only
  
• RT Execution Trace Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Digital Filter Design Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Advanced Signal Processing Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Motion Assistant Windows Only
  
• PID Tookit Windows Only
  
• Simulation Interface Toolkit Windows Only
  
• System Identification Toolkit Windows Only
  
• Adaptive Filter Tookit Windows Only
  
• LabVIEW Signal Express Windows Only
  
  

We eagerly await your registration. Thank you for your invaluable help in assisting us design and test LabVIEW.

QUOTE(Eugen Graf @ Jun 28 2007, 06:13 AM)

I don't know which one, but one NI service controls shared variables. So if you don't use shared variables you can disable this service.

What is NI Spy?

EUgen

Here are a few directly, or indirectly, associated with shared variables

Lookout Citadel Service - Citadel4...not needed if you've never used Loookout or LabVIEW DSC (prior to 8.0)

National Instruments Domain Service - provides a domain server for NI Security

National Instruments PSP Server Locator - allows PSP machines to find each other...not needed if you aren't using shared variables

National Instruments Time Synchronization - allows machines to use a master time server

National Instruments Variable Engine - controls shared variables...not needed if you aren't using shared variables

QUOTE(Guenther @ Apr 10 2007, 10:09 AM)

Hu guys,

is the run time engine of LV 8.2.1 different from the one if LV 8.20 or will programs compiled with LV 8.2.1 also run with the 8.20 RT engine?

We have the LV8.20 RT engine already installed on quite a number of measurement PCs.

Thanks,

Guenther

People in the RT group with much more knowledge than I have tell me this will work.

QUOTE(PJM_labview @ Apr 5 2007, 09:50 PM)

...

A side Note: To have both the user name and the user serial number on the envelop does not seem to be the most secure thing to do...

We're raising this issue with the appropriate group.

QUOTE(alameer @ Mar 30 2007, 04:12 AM)

welcome

i have table , this table consist of events

1- how make new event on the top .

2- how connect or storge these events in DB .

i have DSC 8 module !!

What are these events? User defined events? DSC alarm-style events?

QUOTE(TiT @ Apr 5 2007, 09:25 AM)

Well, I can guess that from the fact that there is nothing about 8.2.1 on NI web site, but can you tell us if it will include bug fixes ?

And maybe give a list

Well...I can't tell you when 8.2.1 will be generally available but I would be very surprised if it did not contain bug fixes. I would also be very surprised if a list of fixed bugs weren't included in a readme or something.

QUOTE(xtaldaz @ Apr 4 2007, 10:46 AM)

I thought Citadel had an ODBC interface and any app that can communicate through ODBC (such as the Database Toolkit) could retrieve data from Citadel. Is this not true?

You are correct. I failed to mention that. You may beat me when you see me next.

QUOTE(superslug @ Apr 4 2007, 12:38 AM)

I have linked a shared variable directly to an xy graph to communicate between 2 vi's. When the XY graph updates it flashes the data up then it disappears until the next update. Has anyone encountered this sort of problem before. Is it some sort of setting that I have wrong?

If you use a graph you have to feed in all the data yourself...so you would need to build up an array of the data you got from the variable and feed it to the graph. Use a chart and it will keep track of the previous data itself.

QUOTE(Nullllll @ Apr 3 2007, 04:27 PM)

welcome

i have project , and i need connect some value with DB .

i have LV 8 , but i dont know what is the best module - DSC (avilabel) or Database Connectivity Toolset( not available )

which i can connect eith DB

DSC reads/writes to its own database (Citadel - with MSDE for alarm values.) The DBCT connects to other relational databases.

If you are planning on generating some numeric data which you want stored in a database for later retrieval, DSC is an excellent choice although I think more pricey than the DBCT. If you want to read generic data from a relational database like mySQL then DSC is not the right way to go. Since you state that DSC is already available to you I suppose the price issue falls in its favor at the moment.

The thing to remember about logging values using DSC, though, is that Citadel is an NI proprietary database so you will have to use an NI product to get your data back out - though you can export the data for later inport into a spreadsheet.

QUOTE(Nullllll @ Apr 3 2007, 03:56 PM)

oK oK i am not expressing well .

if the user enter 8 ok! the program will generatae all values below 8 till the loop stopped!!!that must be done in the program

So, you want a graph which displays a sine wave of amplitude x, where x is entered by the user?

QUOTE(Nullllll @ Apr 3 2007, 01:26 PM)

Hi there,

I need a hint for my VI ,,, I have a max value of x suppose it is 10 ! in this case I want to draw from 10 to -10 in a graph !! if my value is 5 then I want to graph from 5 to -5 ... How to do that?? I have tried an array and case structure ! it doesnot work!!

If you right-click on the graph on the front-panel and choose "X Scale >> Autoscale X" the graph will automatically resize for your data. Is this what you are looking for?