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[LabVIEW 2011] Howdy If you probe a LVOOP Object it tells you the Actual Data Type e.g. the wire maybe that of a parent, but it will display the child's name if the child ran on that wire. Is there a way to get the Actual Data Type of an LVOOP Object at edit time from a terminal input reference / wire reference (assuming the VI has been run and the wire has been 'executed' on). There is a datatype property for the terminal but it just returns the parent class in the above use case. I managed to locate this control which is part of the probe (<resource>\dialog\NI.LVClass.Probe.NameStr.ctl) hoping to find the complete probe and see the code - still searching tho: Cheers! -JG