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QUOTE (rolfk @ Dec 19 2008, 04:44 AM) I agree completely. As long as the data exists, and can be found, then I'm happy. It just seems to me that some of the knowledge base is a bit "tribal".

QUOTE (willemjs @ Dec 17 2008, 03:51 PM) W, The examples shown are perfect if you want to Abort VI's. But, perhaps in your situation, you are talking about a main program that calls (launches) other VI's which all run in a loop. If that's the case, the VI's can be stopped by stopping all the loops with a Global (or Shared) Variable, or Notifier, or Queue, etc. What are you trying to do specifically? QUOTE (ASTDan @ Dec 17 2008, 08:34 PM) I have been using this to stop VI's Dan Slick! No more Dialog Box Hell !

:thumbup: :thumbup: what Shaun said ! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Thanks Antoine !! :worship: LAVA is a superbly executed PSP site. A few housekeeping chores will enhance the already superb experience we all enjoy here. Your offer of time is most gracious and appreciated. :beer: :beer: :beer:

Oh No! I hope we don't start a PIC vs. AVR fight! :laugh:

Does NI keep a List of everything that ships with LabVIEW, and where to find it?. By "everything", I mean every VI, Function, and every possible Property and Invoke Node. I know, it would be voluminous, but the data exists somewhere. Didn't they used to ship reference books with version 6? What happened to that idea?

QUOTE (vugie @ Dec 15 2008, 05:55 AM) Sounds like a great hidden implentation method. I wonder if that works anything like setting the properties of similar decorations? Just guess at which one it might be until... Viola! Then you delete that and add a few more, and....

QUOTE (mindmoody @ Dec 14 2008, 11:24 AM) Stop Dude! There's no WAY you can make your own board for the cost of buying one or two. It sounds like you just need a few Digital Outs - maybe relay, and an Analog In. If you pay yourself a dollar an hour and use the cheapest parts you can find and get a cheap PCB made with no solder mask and silkscreen, you might break even. Now, if you're doing this as a learning exercise, then fine*, but your statement about it reducing cost is off base. * I'd recommend the PIC16F876, but LAVA isn't really the forum for that type of thing, insofar as how to make the board, wire it up, etc.

QUOTE (P. Rosegger @ Dec 12 2008, 08:27 AM) I don't know how you're going to set the property of each and every control without either having each property node exist first, or a strictly typed reference to each and every control that feeds a strict node through a selector case. I would be very interested to see if anyone can post a dynamic solution.

QUOTE (mindmoody @ Dec 12 2008, 08:30 AM) You're welcome moody, thanks for checking back in. Remember that's just one of a thousand possible RS232 cards you could use from dozens of companies.

QUOTE (orko @ Dec 10 2008, 03:26 PM) Indeed. My point, which I didn't make very well, was that this does not allow us to answer "yes" to your question 2: "will I use this sub-vi again". I guess the thin line is, if I answer yes to that question, it goes into my library and gets a more generic name. If I answer no, the sub-vi just become part of the current project scenery. QUOTE (orko @ Dec 10 2008, 03:26 PM) A lot of times I find that I really just needed to split a state machine up into more states... And THAT is the way you keep yourself from nesting too deeply (that point is being made for our hopefully-not-a-one-hit-wonder original poster). If I'm three VI's deep, it's time to rethink the design. Actually two. QUOTE (orko @ Dec 10 2008, 03:26 PM) Then again, I've probably just drank too much of the OOP grape drink... Jonestown Estates gives http://www.softpanorama.org/SE/anti_oo.shtml' rel='nofollow' target="_blank">30% discounts for OOP users.

I like orko's two questions .... QUOTE (orko @ Dec 3 2008, 02:22 AM) but the first can almost always be answered "yes". Such as: "The sub-vi saves space on the wiring diagram", or, "the sub-vi makes the code more modular". I don't think these are necessarily bad reasons to make a sub-vi. A good example of the proper use of a one-off sub-vi would be in the "organization" of multiple Property Nodes for GUI manipulation (wiring in references). Other examples which I use a lot would be in large string concatenations, multiple Select or min/max functions, obtain multiple notifiers, etc. Admittedly, these are "space savers" and not true modular coding techniques (and not true encapsulation), but a one-screen wiring diagram is important to me.

QUOTE (mindmoody @ Dec 10 2008, 12:01 PM) Sounds like you just need a generic serial port I/O card capable of Digital (or relay) Out and Analog In. There are hundereds of choices out there, such as http://www.ontrak.net/adr2000.htm' rel='nofollow' target="_blank">this one. Download user manuals and read them. Hook coumpter to the serial card. Use VISA functions in LabVIEW to talk to the board. edit: like Dan said. You're getting cold even thinking about the MAX232 charge pump chip. Just about any serial port I/O card you buy will already have that chip on it. It's completely transparent to the user. Now, if you want to design your own RS232 board, the you need to think about it.

Also be sure you use explicit paths, and especially not "current VI's path". Once you build an EXE, those paths may not mean anything if the program is on a different drive, machine, or folder.

QUOTE (Aristos Queue @ Dec 8 2008, 08:41 PM) I bet you're right The originator of the code was a hardcore C++ programmer. It wouldn't surprise me if he used 3rd party OO. I have a good idea... I'll ask him. Sounds radical, I know.

QUOTE (Michael_Aivaliotis @ Dec 9 2008, 03:49 AM) :laugh: :laugh: Anyway, I'm glad to help, but I'm wondering if the Community would be up for a simplification of the categories. Combining a few. Renaming a few. Among other things, maybe putting the General category down under the other categories so it forces users to consider all the options. This way, the "system" has more of a chance to take care of itself, at least that's the idea.

Along these same lines, how come in my OOP code, my class data is a cube, but on some other code I have inherited, it's a cluster showing the class data? How do I get that later thing? QUOTE (Aristos Queue @ Sep 9 2008, 05:44 PM) I think you are referring to Place VI Contents. What used to be called Merge is now the deal when you're sopposed to be able to merge two VI's, which is great demo at shows.

IMO, the category "LabVIEW Development Environment" is mis-used a bit. This is a category for questions about the Environment, however it looks like users may be reading to much into the word "Development". Just a quick scan of the latest posts - I'd say at least 50% of them don't belong in there, but could be interprested as belonging there. Can I suggest that we rename that category? How about dropping the word "Development"?. Or maybe call it Options and Settings. Or Settings, Options, and Tricks. Something along those lines. I dunno. Just a thought.

QUOTE (TobyD @ Nov 25 2008, 10:59 AM) Good idea, the trial license. I've also been thinking of picking up an old version on eBay. The 6.1 usually goes for cheap. This is a great community here and I know someone would upsave for me, but I don't want to give people my busy work, but more importantly, I wanted to know a good solution going forward. I could conceivably have hundreds of these to convert. Thanks! :thumbup: edit: Toby, your member info says you've been on LabVIEW since 2007? I'd like to nominate you for "Fastest LAVA Ever".

QUOTE (TobyD @ Nov 25 2008, 11:14 AM) 10-4 thanks Toby. And I knew it wasn't your code snippet. I replied to your post simply because it contained the picture.

QUOTE (TobyD @ Nov 19 2008, 10:18 AM) I apologize for this being tangential, however: why use the Open Visa before the Setup?

I am disappointed that NI decided to stop opening version 5 files as of 8.5 (I think it was 8.5 when they did that). Version 5.1 is a hugely popular version. Anyhooo. How do you "upsave" to 8.5? Lets assume you don't own / have access to an earlier version. The obvious answer is to acquire an old version of 6.x through 8.2 and open the 5.1 VI, save, as the current version, then open in 8.5, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something obvious. Thanks!

QUOTE (Jim Kring @ Nov 18 2008, 02:21 AM) Don't take my stab at humor the wrong way. I was trying to point out how absurd NOT owning that book is, for the price Amazon is charging ($53 with free shipping). I actually have your older version. It'll be on eBay when my Ed.3 arrives, complete with coffee and beer stains! :beer:

QUOTE (Jim Kring @ Nov 17 2008, 03:36 PM) Why can't I just give YOU $53 directly, and then you answer every question I have from now on?

QUOTE (Jim Kring @ Nov 17 2008, 02:52 PM) Thanks Jim! Illumination.