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Which I believe is already in this thread: http://lavag.org/top...__0entry71375 Flower, have you been through the "Getting Started with LabVIEW" tutorial that comes with LV? Also, if you go to ni.com and type "LabVIEW tutorial" in the search engine, all sorts of good stuff pops up. Working through the tutorials/examples is one good way to learn.

I knew if I was wrong someone much brighter than I would respond. They key is to right-click on the control and enable Drag and Drop. Assuming it's there in the version you're using.

Because... the short answer is that you can't do a simple drag and drop from one listbox to another. With most listbox-to-listbox interfaces you select a line in one listbox and then hit a button with code behind it to transfer that line to the other listbox. Same for moving rows up and down.

You're right, sorry! Besides, I keep swearing I'm not posting to this thread anymore. I'd say the devil made me do it, but then we'd be right back where we started.

He is so wrong! It was because Haiti made a pact with the devil. According to Pat Robertson, anyway...

<BR><BR>Oh, definitely. It's just a matter of lugging my laptop home and doing it there. I'm heading off to install and test the Big Project soon. If I get a chance I'll download the freebie version of VIPM tonite. I've got 12 hours on a plane to play with it. <IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://lavag.org/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif"> <BR><BR>Thanks for all the input everyone!

I think I have the very first version on some ancient laptop around here... Part of the reason why I stopped using it was that a few years back it was declared by the Powers That Be that we could never touch an outside network with our acquisition computers. Not that they are classified, but just because... That made updating/synching problematic so I abandoned it before I ever really started using it. Plus back then there was only the Big Project and reuse wasn't an issue. Mostly I was using it for the very first OpenG versions. All that being said, I could take my current development laptop home (it's not considered one of our acquisition computers) and download there. After that, are the any issues with running the Professional version off the net? Or should I be asking Jim these questions?

Let us know how that goes. Assuming prisoners have internet access in NC.

I use user.lib just for generic tools. Nothing application dependent. Most of the code I reuse across applications is reading/writing file formats, performing basic analysis functions (mostly of the FFT variety). Other users want to use the file format we've developed for the Big Project so they can use my analysis tools. So I am deliberately using code from Big Project in those other projects. As I said in my original post, I haven't had any problem managing this until recently. Maybe I need a library called reuse.lib where anything that's cross-application goes. Or maybe I just need remedial source code control tutoring. "Unruly." That's the exact description of my Big Project.

Monitors are the same? I've had to go back and redo spacing/alignment since the latest batch of laptops we got in are widescreen and that messes everything up.

Yes, thanks for reminding me. That's probably what I'll end up doing. Thanks for the links, Ben. It's good to know I'm not the only one wondering how/when/where/why to use projects. There's a lot of good info in those threads. I keep forgetting there's another LV forum (tho I did read everything I could find on projects on the NI website a couple weeks ago).

Okay. I've already started putting that together. I've pulled top/dynamic vis out into a new project. Another Q: is there a way to copy build specifications from one project to another? I'm very willing to admit (and was trying to in my original post) that some of these issues may be my fault. My main problem has been that between the Big Project and other projects I'm working on, there is a lot of code reuse. I've managed this all quite fine for years. Ever since I had to start using projects, there have been several occasions where I have altered or even deleted code because I was editing it in one project and didn't realize what impact this was having on code in another project. I don't think this is something that can be "fixed" by anything other than me knowing what the features/limitations of projects really are as they apply to a large installation with many parts.

The next version of the Big Project is ready to be shipped (so to speak ). I've got a couple days before I head out to sea for the installation and I thought I'd spend it doing a little code organization. This is a set of code that I've been developing over the past few years. Somewhere along the way, NI in its infinite wisdom, decided I needed to be using projects to organize my code. I won't go into the headaches this has caused me, since it's one of those "improvement" I'm stuck with. But I do think part of the problem that I have with the Project Paradigm is that I really don't know how to use it to its full advantage. I realize there are multiple answers to this question, but I'm hoping you all can give me a few pointers. Here's the situation: I have a project with 2000+ vis in it (well, really only 1800+. The other 200 are two OpenG polymorphic vis I use ). This project consists of a main program that calls a whole bunch of code dynamically, nine or ten "tools" programs, and 4 or 5 ancilliary programs that aren't really part of the Big Project, but are needed for other parts of the test setup. All 15 of these programs have their own executable and those executables go into one installation package (that resides in the Big Project). I've started attempting to move the ancilliary programs off to their own projects and just pointing to their executables in the installation package. I'm not really sure if I should move all the tools programs off too, mostly because keeping track of 15 projects will be a headache. Also, what vis should be listed in the project directory when I'm done? Right now, there's a whole bunch of vis that I don't need -- whatever I created while the project was open. Should the listing just consist of whatever top level vis and files I need to actually use to build the executables? Or should all 1800 vis be listed (hopefully not!). As you all can probably see, I need a lot of remedial help! Cat

It seems my bug is not a bug, but, "a result of the change of the Cursor Legend from LabVIEW 7.1 to 8.x". I dunno. If going to a newer version changes how my GUI acts, in a way that I can't directly access to fix, that's not a good thing. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... Anywho, the very nice NI App Engineer says he will file an internal product suggestion to change this change. In the meantime, I've coded around the bug, uhh, change. Cat

I keep thinking about those tin foil hats to stop aliens from invading your brain. http://www.stopabductions.com My favorite quote: "The thought screen helmet has effectively stopped several types of aliens from abducting or controlling humans. Only four failures have been reported since 1998."

It's easy enough (although definitely annoying) to click on the cursors in the tree and contract them after the centering function. However, there's another function where I have a cursor automatically scrolling across the screen between the 2 other cursors and need to have its XY values displayed at all times. Manually contracting that is impossible. So yes, I'll need to code it up, I guess. I've done something similar before in another application when I had a single cursor and wanted to display the XY values as the graph caption. It's just annoying that this used to work and now it doesn't. Makes me leery of upgrading to new versions of LabVIEW. I've got over 1800 vis in the Big Project, and testing them all after an upgrade is a huge job (not to mention all the Little Projects). I noticed another bit of GUI code the other day that's not working quite right any more, even tho I haven't touched it since before I went from 7.1 to 8.x. I'll be checking that out today. Odds are it's something I unknowingly did, but now at least I know to consider it might be another version change issue and I just have to code around it.

Follow up: I dug up the original 7.1 code, and shore enuf, it works just fine -- no expansion of the cursor legend tree. I've reported it as a bug to NI.

That's a really good point. The code this is in has been around for a few years, and I was idly wondering the other day why no one had noticed this behaviour before. It might have not been a problem in the original 7.1 code.

I'm having a minor issue with the cursor legend of a waveform graph and was hoping someone would have a solution. My cursor legend starts out looking like this: After I programatically set the cursor postions (using the Cursor.PosX property), the cursor legend looks like this: This is a Bad Thing, since the real code has several cursors and after it opens they go beyond the legend window. Here's the bit of code I pulled out to illustrate this: cursor legend test.vi I guess I need a property to contract that tree after it's been expanded. I've looked for something that might do this with no luck. Any ideas? Cat

2082844800 is within an hour (+/- for DST). I use 2082848400 for talking with Linux/Solaris systems and that works correctly. Do you know for sure that your dll is returning the correct value?

Them's fightin' words... I can't disagree with that. "Obsessive" by who's definition? I called a cow-orker a "dunsel" once. I was making a reference to a Star Trek episode. Cow-orker #2 remembered much more about the episode than I did. Cow-orker #3 remembered everything about the episode including the title. Which one of us knows enough about Star Trek to qualify as a "geek"? Now this I agree with. I suspect the non-geeky nerds I went to school with ended up runing the financial world. And before anyone says those nerds weren't smart enough to avoid the current crisis, just remember, they are so smart that despite all the havoc they have wreaked they are still making more money than 99.9% of the rest of us.

I like that! Back in the Olden Days when I was growing up, there was no such thing as a "geek". All of the social misfits were called "nerds". There was a sub-set of nerds called "media nerds". These were the guys who were in the Media Club, set up the AV equipment for the school, hung out in the only classroom with an actual modem in it (had to put the phone handset down on the rubber cups). I think they morphed into today's "geeks". So I would have to (respectfully!) disagree -- I think geeks are a subset of nerds.

You are such a tease.

So I *did* know it. I was probably in 8th grade the year that came out!

I'm feeling a little better about this today... Last night my daughter was wading thru vocabulary words (did I have to know how to use "indefatigable" in a sentence in 8th grade?). I asked to hear the sentences she had come up with so far. One of her words was "maxim". She said, "The only thing I could come up with was, 'The Vulcan maxim is "Live long and prosper."'" That's my girl!