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QUOTE (crelf @ May 19 2008, 06:42 AM) To me, belief involves having confidence or conviction in something -- most often, and especially with religion, something that can not be easily verified. Faith is similar to belief, but it leads one to action. (e.g. If you believe the bridge is safe, you may not be willing to cross it. But if you have faith the bridge is safe, then you will cross it.) Truth (since someone tossed that in) is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and as they are to come. QUOTE (Jim Kring @ May 19 2008, 11:04 AM) I'll throw another log on the fire... Paul Graham just published a new essay, this month, called Lies We Tell Kids. The "Identity" section describes how religious identity, beliefs, and lies are all intertwined in a way that propogates modern religions. This was a fascinating read. Don't have much time to comment on it, but the section on Identity did seem a bit weak. If I tell my child they are a part of my family, that is a true statement. Being a part of a group is not inherently a lie. And to assume that groups inherently believe falsehoods to distinguish themselves is a bit of a stretch. QUOTE (shoneill @ May 20 2008, 03:21 AM) Exactly. The whole things revolves around the differences between Belief (which I have no problem with) and Religion and Church (Both of which I dislike). Religion and Church are just a group of people with similar beliefs. Just like Republicans and Democrats, people tend to group themselves. I don't think the phenomenon itself is bad, but certainly there are some results of this that are undesirable. Always ask questions. People that get offended by a conflicting opinion need to reconsider their own. David

QUOTE (crelf @ May 15 2008, 11:46 AM) Especially since I don't have faith in a disbelief of God

QUOTE (shoneill @ May 15 2008, 12:47 AM) That sounds nice, but seems quite difficult to implement. How do you expose a child to (at least) a dozen religious views, including atheism, and then say "Which would you like to believe?" What if you missed the correct view? Pretty much all of them are mutually exclusive, if taken in their entirety. I suppose the child could pick their favorite parts of each one and form their own new religion. I think the best route is to teach your child what you believe. The schools will teach the kids what the textbooks and teachers currently 'believe'. And the children will eventually search for their own truth as time goes on. A good method similar to your idea would be to say, (to provide a concrete example) I believe in atheism, for the following reasons .... Some people believe in Christianity. It has some really good teachings, such as .... Some people believe in Islam. It has some really good teachings, such as .... Some people believe in Buddhism. It has some really good teachings, such as .... and so on I do agree that exposing people to other ideas is very good, and if we focus on the good that is found in others then perhaps our kids will grow up in a better world then we have today. David

The general message that he gave really made sense to me. I purposefully don't have any TV reception (no satellite, cable, etc.). Partly because I don't like it when I do watch and partly because I would sit and watch it anyway and waste too much time. The idea that we could spend more time producing and sharing things also works for me. Certainly many people watch too much TV, but then some people spend too much time monitoring Wikipedia articles. Definitely there needs to be a balance. What people need to do is sit back and ask "What is important to me?" Then we need to make sure we are spending time on those important things. I reject the idea that interactive entertainment is inherently better than non-interactive. I think it is a reasonable idea to ask 'Can this be made better by making it interactive?' By adding a mouse, as he puts it. But it would be taking it too far to say interactive is always better. It almost sounded like he was saying that, though I doubt he really believes that. Books and movies and theatre will still be around centuries from now. Life is what we make of it, but it is also how we react to what others make of it.

QUOTE (Aristos Queue @ May 6 2008, 09:49 AM) http://lavag.org/old_files/monthly_05_2008/post-1519-1210170906.gif' target="_blank"> That sounds awesome. I don't have the time to put the primitives and OpenG icons on there (I have a Diadem class to get to), but I can just picture it with "Some like their dataflow HOT" written underneath.

QUOTE (reem @ Apr 17 2008, 11:31 AM) If you don't know what your trying to do, that makes asking the question more difficult. It has been explained that you can make a control of any data type you desire and then drag that control into the cluster. It will be added as a member of the cluster. I found it extremely helpful when starting with LV to read through the LV Beginners manual that a colleague had. If you don't have access to LV materials or training there are some http://forums.lavag.org/What-Labview-Book-Would-YOU-recommend-t7182.html' target="_blank">LV books you can purchase as well. David

QUOTE (eaolson @ Apr 17 2008, 10:43 AM) Exactly. It is the attitude of "You are wrong" that causes problems. When someone tells me my code is wrong it pings a little bit. But when someone tells me my world view is wrong -- that hurts. So ID proponents stating that the science is fake, or evolution proponents stating that creationism is a fairy tale, does nothing but foment frustration if not bitterness. We all view the world a bit differently, which makes us all a bit wrong. We all change our paradigm and world view as we progress through life, hopefully fixing our incorrect perceptions. So while they may be wrong, remember that we are too. Do you have change for a paradigm?

QUOTE (tcplomp @ Apr 15 2008, 04:39 AM) I also have wanted this, and made a feature request for it a while ago. Seems like a pretty reasonable request. Conditional disable flags affect the entire project, and the build settings build the project into an executable.

QUOTE (neB @ Apr 15 2008, 07:21 AM) Ben, I have to say that I really appreciate your response here. A lot of heat and friction is produced by this debate, but people need to relax just a little bit and takes a few steps back. In doing so I think that one could argue that neither side is really threatened by the other. Reminds me of the Olympics thread where it was argued that it isn't a specific government system that is the problem but the people implementing it. Likewise it is the people that OPPOSE each side of the ID/evolution debate that cause the friction and problems. Why are we so interested in proving people wrong, rather than searching for the truth? Isn't that what scientists and religious people are all supposed to do? David

Sounds like the really easy and fast answer is to just place a Local Variable of the chart indicator in the subsequent while loops. I believe you need to manually flush the History Buffer of the chart to clear the old data before plotting the new. David

QUOTE (alfa @ Apr 2 2008, 11:32 PM) So from your two books, "I Am Creating God" and "String Theory", it's fairly safe to assume you are a http://www.venganza.org/' rel='nofollow' target="_blank">Pastafarian?

A very Happy Birthday, Michael !!

QUOTE (orko @ Mar 26 2008, 10:15 AM) :laugh: QUOTE (orko @ Mar 26 2008, 10:15 AM) Please, someone post something catchy so I can dump this. Oh man...even that sounded wrong. :headbang: This song from Flight of the Conchords got stuck in my head for a while. Do enjoy. Or if you prefer a version done

QUOTE (B Chavez @ Mar 20 2008, 09:38 AM) I've run into this race condition before. The event structure can fire before the terminals are updated.

QUOTE (gosor @ Mar 20 2008, 07:51 AM) I believe you are asking for more 'Group Editing' options. There is a little bit of this, but it is limited to font changes and alignment/distribution. It would be REALLY nice to be able to select a group of objects and have the right-click menu give me a list of changes and actions that are common to the group.

QUOTE (Chemist @ Mar 17 2008, 02:00 PM) How did you find this old thread?

QUOTE (Michael_Aivaliotis @ Mar 13 2008, 09:33 AM) If you're looking for feedback, I think it's a great idea. :thumbup:

QUOTE(Lars915 @ Mar 7 2008, 06:10 AM) If you want it to automatically detect what version of Office or Excel you have on the computer and operate accordingly, then the answer is no. It looks like you need to write a VI to determine what version of Office you are running, and then set some flag (in a http://wiki.lavag.org/Functional_global_variable' target="_blank">Functional Global, or Global Variable etc.). In your code that accessed the Excel API you change your behavior based on that flag. If you want to build two different versions to distribute to different people, then crelf's suggestion would work well. David

QUOTE(TobyD @ Mar 6 2008, 09:42 AM) Now I'm wondering if you know that much about Dilbert or if you are just google bluffing...

QUOTE(TobyD @ Mar 5 2008, 03:50 PM) Thanks. I was really hoping for a platform independent solution, but in talking to NI it appears that they also use the OS API to hide and unhide their floating windows. So this seems the way to go. Thanks again. David

How can I determine if LabVIEW is the active (frontmost) application? I know that you can set a VI to be floating and automatically hide when LabVIEW is not active. But is there any way to access that information via an event or property node? If I had a floating VI, I could check if it was hidden or not -- but to make it interesting let us assume that is not an option. On a side note, I tried the scripting event for "Application Activation" but I couldn't even determine what event causes this to fire. David

QUOTE(PJM_labview @ Mar 4 2008, 10:39 AM) That was it. Thanks very much. I never tried it with the front panel closed, just hidden. David

QUOTE(PJM_labview @ Mar 4 2008, 09:09 AM) Testing in LV 7.1, 8.2, and 8.5 shows that changing focus on Front Panel and Block Diagram windows does not change the Active VI. Selecting any object updates Active VI. Most tools play with selected objects, which is why this isn't much of an issue. I suspect that NI uses the VI Activation scripting event in the Navigation window. QUOTE(PJM_labview @ Mar 4 2008, 09:09 AM) Yes this is possible. Here are a couple items that help in doing this. 1) The close if lonely does generate a scripting event (I forgot which one at the moment) which you can catch and act upon. 2) System VIs, while not shown in the hierarchy, could be used as well for this background service if they are the only one left running in memory. Have you gotten behavior where the only running VI is a System VI and this causes the Getting Started window to appear? I can't seem to get that behavior with System VIs. I had one System VI running (shown or hidden) and nothing else open. Still the Getting Started window never showed up. Though it is nice that if you choose to Exit LabVIEW, you don't get a warning that your System VIs will be aborted. Thanks for looking into this. David

The current ability that I have found is to include the "Set Close If Lonely" node. This will close the tool if all other VIs (minus System VIs) are closed. This is nice for certain needs. Also one may set the VI as a System VI so that it does not show up in the VI Hierarchy. I am looking to make a background service that monitors for the 'true' active VI using the VI Activation scripting event. It would also monitor for certain keyboard shortcuts. This seems necessary due to limitations in the scripting API. Active VI does not always change with window focus changes. Sometimes requires clicking on an object on the window. MenuLaunch VI does not function for a custom icon editor nor tools called from the File menu. Custom Tool Menu items can not currently have shortcuts assigned. If there is some way to overcome these limitations without having a background service, that would be very nice and welcome. Assuming a background service, however, it would be expected that if all other VIs were closed then the Getting Started window would appear. The service would not stop, but remain hidden. If the user closed LabVIEW, the service would also close automatically. Is this even possible? David

QUOTE(crelf @ Feb 28 2008, 04:01 PM) No, I think the question is (albeit a trick question) correct. In LV Basics, it is important to make this point so that you realize that if order is important then you need to force execution order. Because if it was relevant, then there is a bug in that code. After all, we only code it correctly after fixing all our bugs.