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Michael Aivaliotis

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  1. If you right-click on a file folder within a LabVIEW Project, you can select to "arrange by" type, name or path. This is all good an fun, however:

    • When you add new files to the folder the folder doesn't re-sort the list. You have to re-sort the contents manually every time.
    • There is no global setting for this. For example, newly created folders are not sorted in any controllable way.

    This is bad.

  2. QUOTE(gmart @ May 23 2007, 01:17 PM)

    I think we're missing a key metric. Where are the stats for the 8.2 launch time? I thought your original complaint was that 8.2.1 was slower than 8.2.
    I did not clock the 8.2 startup time when I had it before the upgrade. Sorry. I'm not about to downgrade. It felt like 30s.

    As far as everyone else. That's great, I'm happy for you (I really am) but how do I debug this? Any suggestions?

  3. QUOTE(LV Punk @ May 23 2007, 09:19 AM)
    I see an outline with the original post, but if I click on any of the replies, I just see the original post. I just tried to view this thread in outline mode, and can't click on your most recent response to read it. I just see the first post ...
    Ok, now I see it too. Thanks. I'll move this to the bug forum.
  4. QUOTE(Jacemdom @ May 22 2007, 03:35 PM)
    Does someone know what is the difference between the "Web Browser version" LVRunTimeEng.exe 8.0.1 (24MB) and the "Runtime Engine" folder (20MB) included in the complete package 8.0.1 (87MB)?
    I could spend the time and figure it out, but you can also do this yourself. Just download both run-times. Extract them and look at the folder contents. You will see several clearly labeled msi install files for the full runtime which are related to various add-on features.
  5. QUOTE(chrisdavis @ May 21 2007, 06:14 PM)

    the LabView 8.2.1 runtime engine itself is only 25 MB
    I agree. Since the LabVIEW 8.0 release, NI decide to add a little confusion by creating two run-time engines. The old run-time is now called the "web browser only" runtime:

    QUOTE

    There are two downloads that are available. You only need to install one of them.
    • LabVIEW 8.2.1 Run-Time Engine (Web Browser Only)
      (24MB)

      is a smaller download intended for viewing Remote Front Panels in web

      pages. It does not contain the full run-time engine, but will allow

      some executables to run. This version can not be deployed. Download LVRunTimeEng.exe to install this version.

    • LabVIEW 8.2.1 Run-Time Engine (Standard)
      (91MB)

      gives full support for executables. This version will support all

      executables built with LabVIEW as well as allow viewing of Remote Front

      Panels in web browsers. It includes support for DataSocket, Variable

      Engine and NI-USI. This version can be deployed using an installer

      created with Application Builder. Download LabVIEW_8.2.1_Runtime_Engine.exe to install this version.

    So really, you may be able to get by with the web browser only version which is "only" 24MB.

  6. QUOTE(chrisdavis @ May 16 2007, 06:44 PM)
    Question for you. How are the additional msi files included? Are they a post or pre install task? Also, upon an upgrade, what happens when the additional msi gets called again? Do you get the repair, or uninstall dialog for the msi?
  7. QUOTE(Eugen Graf @ May 18 2007, 08:42 AM)

    It's okey if my read-task triggers itself?

    Eugen

    Again, many ways to skin a cat. Your approach will work fine but there is no way to control the timing of the reads. They will happen asap which may or may not be desirable. I suggest you add a shift register with a timer value to control this better. Since the reads happen independantly from external commands, you need to put something that will trigger them. Some code in the timeout case of the bottom loop that sends a read command with a timer should do it.

    Another issue I see is you don't have an associated Write before the Read. What Write command will tell the instrument to return data? Unless the instrument is always returning data then I guess it's fine. In that case my timer solution in the previous paragraph is not valid. You need to do a check bytes at port in order to see if a Read is necessary.

  8. QUOTE(Darren @ May 18 2007, 08:00 AM)
    This is the only on-line survey I've ever encountered where viewing the results counts as a vote.
    The idea behind this is that viewing the results will probably bias your decision thus you give up your right to vote. You can vote then view the results or you can view the results only and not vote.
  9. QUOTE(NI Support)

    The problem you are seeing is due to the fact that some component that the NI-Serial driver relies upon was installed from the November 2006 driver CD, and was not reinstalled by the February 2007 driver CD. This means that, in order to include the driver in an installer, you will need to supply the November 2006 driver CD in order to allow the appropriate component to be pulled from it. This is a pain point that we are aware of, and R&D is working to find a solution to this problem.

    So it turns out that the best way to resolve this is to uninstall ALL drivers and install the one I want before the build. Does anyone else see problems with this methodology? I mean, let's say for instance that you are supporting multiple projects with differnet driver version requirements. What then? If anyone's gone down this path, do you have any suggestions?

  10. When building an NI installer, you can specify additional installers. How does this list get populated? Does it depend upon what you have installed already? How do you specify a different version? Must you install that specific version in order for it to show in the list and include it in your installer build? I have a specific issue:

    I see in my list that I have NI-Serial 3.2 installed and available. When I do the build, it prompts me for the driver CD which I provide. Even though the version of NI-Serial on the CD is the same as the one shown, it does not accept it. I'm giving it Feb 2007 - Disk2 but it asks for Nov. 2006 - Desk2. I even tried to uninstall NI-Serial and re-install the one from my CD but no-joy. I even tried copying the source NI-Serial folder from the CD to my hard drive and pointing to it but it still did not like it. It complained about not locating {GUID}.

    Question: Why can't we just point to the #$%$@&! NI *.msi files we need?

    Note: NI support has been contacted.

  11. This is somehow related to this post:

    Autosync a project folder with a folder on disk

    I'm trying to build an installer. I want to add a Help folder using my installer. I would really like to use NI's installer but, yet again, I have found a limitation which causes me to look for other solutions (when will NI "get it"?). In any case, perhaps I'm being too quick to judge ;) .

    I would like to specify a folder in my installer that will be copied to my destination. It seems the only way to do this is to create it first in your project file then specify to copy this folder in the installer. This is an acceptable option. There is a limitation however. My Help folder contents change dynamically. Anyone who's generated an html help understands this. This means I would have to do an add folder contents, remove folder contents, over and over again (or before the install build). This is very tedious and prone to me forgetting to do this.

    This is just one example of dynamic folders. Does anyone have a solution or workaround?

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