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I agree with you Mike, but I think you're oversimplifying what's been going on recently on LAVA. I do not necessarily support or condone the posts that you're talking about, although IMHO I think the reasons that the recent retaliation has occurred has been largely due to the fact that the thread authors aren't even trying to comply with the "How to use the LAVA website, a usefull guide (read me first)" and "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" pages. Although some of the posts have been pretty harsh, (again, IMHO) the majority of what I've seen posted has been after other users have repeatedly pointed the thread authors in the right direction and asked them politely to conform to the spirit of the forum. I have yet to see a "veteran" user jump on a new user immediately, without first letting them know that what they're posting isn't quite appropriate, or could be asked better, or they could try it and post their efforts first, or they could let us know if it's homework, etc. The thread you linked to is the result of two relatively new users who had both separately been asked repeatedly to mend their ways, and then the veteran users were ignored and/or chastised themselves, and it was certainly not veteran users just being mean for the sake of it. QUOTE(Michael_Aivaliotis @ Apr 29 2007, 11:06 AM) I'm also appalled by behaviour that belittles users based on their grasp of any particular language. That said, I don't remember any recent cases of members bullying other members because their English is poor. QUOTE(Michael_Aivaliotis @ Apr 29 2007, 11:06 AM) It used to be that, if you were a LabVIEW user among users, there was a certain bond. Others would help you overcome hurdles and get you hooked on LabVIEW. What ever happened to that? It still exists and is strong (the absolutely vast majority of LAVA proves that), but not so much when HH's are misrepresenting themselves. QUOTE(Gary Rubin @ Apr 29 2007, 11:26 AM) Am I advanced enough? Am I really an "architect"? I shouldn't have to think such things. You don't have to think such things - that's not what this is about at all. All you need to do is make sure you ask questions in constructive ways - just follow the guidelines in "How to use the LAVA website, a usefull guide (read me first)" and "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way". QUOTE(PaulG. @ Apr 29 2007, 01:01 PM) This is a great forum ... but it has been heading in a downward direction lately. Sure, there's been a handful of these incidents, but I strongly (you can tell I mean it, 'cause it's underlined ) disagree with a statement that suggests that LAVA is in a downward driection. IMO, that statement is too extreme. QUOTE(Michael_Aivaliotis @ Apr 29 2007, 11:06 AM) If you don't think the topic is worthy of your time or effort to respond then move along. When all is said and done, that's an excellent line of thought: If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. LAVA's main-stream now, and we're going to get HHs here whether we like it or not. I agree with Mike: just leave 'em be. (that said, if the "ignore user" feature worked for the RSS feeds, I'd be much less enclined to tease the bears )

QUOTE(Gary Rubin @ Apr 29 2007, 12:05 PM) Velcro is your friend

QUOTE(Tomi Maila @ Apr 28 2007, 10:57 PM) Keep clicking on the the graphic at the top in the middle - very cool!

QUOTE(dsaunders @ Apr 28 2007, 05:13 AM) Well put.

QUOTE(Nullllll @ Apr 28 2007, 02:52 AM) Fair call - sorry Nulllll.

QUOTE(Nullllll @ Apr 27 2007, 08:56 PM) Great idea! Nullllll: you're assigned to help Sally out for this problem - let's see what the two of you come up with...

QUOTE(sajidsaleem @ Apr 27 2007, 09:56 PM) Show us what you've tried and we'll try to help. Upload some code for us to look at.

Sally, seriously, you'll feel much more at home over at the NI Dicussion Forums. LAVA is for advanced users, and the most you'll get here is the distain of other members. There are far more people over at the NI Discussion Forums that can help you with the level of questions that you're asking.

QUOTE(Sally @ Apr 27 2007, 05:56 AM) Are we sure we can't set an ignore in the "-ALL OF LAVA-" RSS feed?

THanks so much everyone for your great ideas - this is what I came up with. Disclaimer: I know it's not the best route, but as I said, I inherieted this code, so it's a work-around that gets me out of a tight spot. Open a reference to the dynamically-called SubVI (herein: "SubVI") Set the SubVI's control values Run the SubVI (not waiting for it to finish, as Jim suggested) Monitor the SubVI's execution state and the TopLevel VI's abort button If the SubVI's execution state indicates that it's finished, continue If the TopLevel VI's abort button is pressed, kill the SubVI with the "Abort VI" method If the SubVI finshed normally, get it's indicator values Else, ignore it's indicator values Below is the source code on how I did it - there's a handful of things in there that might look a little odd, including where I get the control values to copy into the SubVI, but that's due to the obscure setup I'm working on. To watch it working, open both the Top Level VI and the SubVI: if you run the Top Level and don't do anything, the SubVI runs for 5 seconds and exits graciously, but if you abort it, it will stop. http://forums.lavag.org/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=5647

I bought one of those, but kept exceeding the power capabilities on my USB hub...

QUOTE(ForgivablE @ Apr 26 2007, 06:43 PM)

QUOTE(Jim Kring @ Apr 26 2007, 07:06 AM) Thanks Jim - you've confirmed what I'd thought was going on. If I was designing it myself, I'd definately impliment the first option, but it's a lot of reverse engineering of the existing code: there's about 100 VIs that are called as plug-ins, and not all of them are easily modified (yeah, yeah, I inherited the code ). I think the easiest thing I'm going to be able to do is the VI Run method - at least then I can encapsulate the FP-control-node-value-set/run-VI/FP-indicator-node-value-read all in one VI and not distrub the dynamically-called VIs...

Hi All, I've got a little issue that's got me scratching my head at the moment (I hope it's something minor I've missed) - I've got a main VI that calls a subVI dymaically (strict), and let's assume that the subVI runs forever (it doesn't, but let's assume that it does). I'd like button on the UI of the main VI to be able to abort the dynamically-called subVI. "Easy!" I hear you say - I've got a reference to the subVI (the same one I used to load it dynmically), and I tried to method>abort it, but I get a "not in a state compatible with this operation" error. The subVI's state is "Running" (as the attached VIs show), but I can't abort it. Has anyone got any ideas on how I could trash the VI and carry on? This is the TopLevel VI: http://forums.lavag.org/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=5632 ...and here's the infinitely-running subVI: http://forums.lavag.org/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=5633 .

QUOTE(Neville D @ Apr 25 2007, 09:19 AM) Cool :thumbup:

QUOTE(Neville D @ Apr 25 2007, 05:23 AM) Right - I *think* those VIs are only for embedding extra data in a jpg file. PS: Ever had a jpg emailed to you that was a relatively small image on screen, yet the file size was large? It could have had some data embedded in there. It's not an uncommon quasi-encryptive technique called steganography, where you can store heaps of stuff in there - including other images You can find out more about steganography in gerenal here, including some info on digital media steganography.

QUOTE(Tomi Maila @ Apr 24 2007, 08:56 PM) I used to be a research physicist (some of the best times of my short life) - now I apply science to test and measurement - the best of both worlds

QUOTE(CRoebuck @ Apr 24 2007, 05:45 PM) I Durham! I had a most excellent counter lunch and brew at a put in Durham - just near the catherdral...

QUOTE(i2dx @ Apr 24 2007, 06:03 AM) Not much going on today Chris?

QUOTE(i2dx @ Apr 24 2007, 05:16 AM) That's shocking!

Hi Irene - it might be an idea to start a wiki page on non-NI vision options in the LAVA wiki - what do you think?

QUOTE(CRoebuck @ Apr 23 2007, 10:01 PM) *sigh* to be back on the shores of Sunderland...

QUOTE(Mikkel @ Apr 23 2007, 09:04 PM) Right - www.google.com isn't a webpage - it's a placeholder that will (by default) push you over to www.google.com/index.html, so asking DataSocket for the text of the page at www.google.com won't work. Also, as html code is ASCII text, you don't need the [text] switch with DataSocket, as it uses [text] by default. Another example of web page parsing with DataSocket is downloading an image from a webpage.

QUOTE(Val Brown @ Apr 23 2007, 09:07 PM) Nicely done - extra credit awarded for the first quote It was, indeed, from Deliverence - a gay romp through the southern US wilderness, where men are men, and wildlife are scared... QUOTE(BobHamburger @ Apr 23 2007, 12:33 PM) And it's a twenty dollar whore, Chris... Extra extra credit Bob (I must have been thinking of that ten-gallon hat at Lily Von-Schtupp's show...) For those who don't understand what we're talking about, the second quote was from the preimminent neoclassical masterpiece Blazing Saddles. QUOTE(BobHamburger @ Apr 23 2007, 12:33 PM) My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives. Ditto!

QUOTE(i2dx @ Apr 23 2007, 03:52 AM) :thumbup: I couldn't have put it better myself. QUOTE(yen @ Apr 23 2007, 03:59 AM) Your father was a hamster, and your mother smelled of elderberries! I fart in your general direction!