PaulG.

Priceless. But I'll bet it's Photoshopped. Not even uSoft could be that stupid.

QUOTE (neB @ Apr 28 2008, 07:01 AM)

...we strapped a steak knife to the other wing to give it that threatening look.

Ben

Sounds like a prop from an Ed Wood movie.

SP1 installed and rebooted but went into a "black screen" with a DOS-looking/Hex string and hung there. I let it sit there for over an hour but nothing. Tried restarting. Same thing. Power-cycled/restart and same thing. Booted off my CD and tried "repair" and got the same thing. Went to my XP laptop and surfed for solutions. A Windows "TechWeb" or somethingtothateffect offered a solution. Was able to get to Vista but now it's a "clean" install ... and now it won't update - gives me an error. I tried uSoft's solution 3x but it didn't work. Vista was smart enough to generate an error report and an attachment form for me to fill out. I filled it out and explained what happened and what I tried. uSoft Tech Support sent me an email this morning with a fix: the SAME SOLUTION from their website that I tried 3x. Now I have to send them a bunch of data. At least I'm communicating with a real human being.

My data is there - I can see it. It's under "Windows_Old" subdirectory. I have a full and very recent backup offsite (Carbonite) of my C: drive but I'm afraid neither can be used as a "ghost" or "image" backup and I'll have to reinstall all of my applications. I don't have the time for this. If I'm going to spend hours and hours and hours re-installing an operating system AND my applications AND putting everything back where it belongs I'm thinking of going back to XP ... before licensed copies of XP disappear. XP was bumpy at first, but not like this, and XP SP2 has been a rock for me for years.

Don't even THINK of telling me to get a Mac ... I can't afford the snobobotomy.

/rant

I first learned LV working at a biomed company. It's very useful in such an enviroment. My experience in biomed is that the work tasks were constantly changing from one product or study to the next. Anytime you want to automate the acquisition and analysis of data LV is the only way to go - and the most rapid and efficient. Take a few classes if you can. Get a good book. I would recommend LabVIEW for Everyone. Spend time here and here. And just keep coding. Welcome to the world of LV. I find it a lot of fun.

(I miss biomed work. Sigh)

A.Q., that is one of the most blatant examples of "feature creep" I've ever seen. :laugh:

What version of LV are you using? I remember having similar issues in 8.20, but I don't seem to have this problem in 8.5. I just tried what you are doing in 8.5 and it seems to be working OK for me.

I was a Rickrolled virgin. That was special.

I had some problems with termination characters following the query. It would work in SQL but the same query in LV would not. Play around with that.

Nice catch. Added to my Favorites. Thanks Orko. :thumbup:

You guys are the best. But now I can't get that stupid song out of my head.

Nope. I'm a guy. Having a GPS is just a high-tech way of asking for directions.

LAVA is begging for money and you give these guys $4?

QUOTE (Yen @ Apr 22 2008, 01:43 PM)

There are wrappers to allow LVOOP to work by-ref. One example ships with LV. Another is Endevo's GOOP which has some OpenG classes. I haven't used any of them (I'm only getting into 8.x now myself) so I can't comment on how they work.

But would they need to be created as LV "Classes"? If so, they would not work in RT - which is one of the reasons I don't want to waste a lot of time learning LV Classes if I can learn something else that is a little more flexible. All the OOP jargon fit together very well for me in the LVOOP Classes presentation, but by reference seems to be almost a cross-language industry "standard" if there is such a thing. Anyone want to comment?

I like looking at how other code is written.

But what I really liked were the comments that follow the LabVIEW version.

"Wow!! That's wonderful!! I've never seen an exotic code as like this!!"

(sniff) LabVIEW is "wonderful" and "exotic". (sniff)

Over lunch I went through this presentation: http://zone.ni.com/wv/app/doc/p/id/wv-155

Best overview of OOP, LV and LV Classes I've seen. This is EXACTLY the way I thought it was supposed to work.

But it still doesn't help me with all the LV OOP applications that deal only with references - which is all of them.

QUOTE (orko @ Apr 21 2008, 02:33 PM)

*Choke*....*ack!*....did he really say $1000 cables??

I had a salesman in a stereo store (remember those?) try to sell me very expensive speaker cables because my new amp needed "every available electron" to carry the power to the speakers. Yep. One or two missing electrons will cause Miles Davis' trumpet to sound like a kazoo. Miss an electron you might miss a beat. Miss an electron and your singer starts dropping syllables ...

QUOTE (Cat @ Apr 21 2008, 01:45 PM)

... Am I making this too hard? ...

... I'm stuck at a fundamental issue of OOP being about programming "components" as opposed to "functions" ...

Cat

I will be paying close attention to this thread. I hope we get a good dialog going. I, too have been trying to understand OOP when it comes to LV. And I, too have spent hours on NI, LAVA, Googling and reading about it. I'm working with OO programs every day now at work and really need to get a handle on it.

We are making this hard. Besides programming components and functions and methods there are issues regarding writing to classes by reference or by value.

I can grasp the ideas behind OO programming fairly easily. But we have way too many LV implementations floating around. LVOOP, OpenGoop, Endevo (same thing?), numerous other 3rd-party OO applications, one that I am working on right now. And almost all of the lower-level vi's/repositories are "password protected" making it difficult to see the nuts and bolts.

You are in a good position Cat. Starting a new application from scratch and thinking of an OO design. I can't think of a better way to learn. But as much as I love OpenG stuff I think I would stick with NI's LVOOP. If forced to make a choice, just out of sheer survival I would go with NI first. I can pick up the others later.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

Pet Rocks for audiophiles.

QUOTE (prober @ Apr 20 2008, 05:27 PM)

...And the rest are real stupid...

"Stupid?!" Your Momma!

Bad grammar with a name "Chopp". I wouldn't want this guy near my specialpurposeprivatestuff.

From the following link: "... STK can be embedded within another application (as an ActiveX component) ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Tool_Kit (thanks richlega)

Using LV/ActiveX/STK the LAVA collective should be able to come up with the best time and method to knock this puppy out of our way once and for all.

We would be more popular than Bruce Willis.

Every version of this song since Harry Nilsson's original has been a HACK JOB. Why doesn't someone remake "Lime in the Coconut"? :laugh:

Uh-oh. Topics like this can quickly digress into "flat-earthers" flaming "amoral atheists" and vice-versa. This topic is LOADED. I have an opinion on just about everything, but not even I will go there.

(la la la la la I'm in my happy place la la la la)

I installed Safari after the 2nd or 3rd time iTunes wanted to update. It's not a bad browser, but nothing spectacular. I guess I expected more from Apple. I'll stick with Firefox.