PaulG.

Negating "Climategate": Copenhagen Talks and Climate Science Survive Stolen E-Mail Controversy From "Scientific" American. Read the comments that follow.

Is CBS moving in on this story?! All taxpayers across the globe should pay attention to squandered tax dollars, but more importantly, we should all pay extra attention to the carbon footprint left in Copenhagen by the "elite" Global Warming/"Climate Change" hypocrites.

I don't think I've ever said that this scam is a "huge" "conspiration" of scientists. There are a few at UEA that most definitely conspired - on numerous occasions - but it's bigger than that. It's in-your-face FRAUD. It's not much of a conspiracy if major players are refusing to release data under Freedom of Information Act requests where the requests themselves are public knowledge and open for scrutiny. Governments and politicians are not scientists but they are heavily involved in this scam and again, it's not much of a conspiracy since many of the nations involved are democratic and open. The media spikes stories all the time if it does not fit the political view of the station managers and owners. That's why "mainstream" sources such as ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, BBC, NYT, NPR all pretty much say the same thing about GW/"CC" and are not reporting much on it unless it supports GW/"CC". But we have alternatives to the alphabet soup. That is why I don't think of it as a "conspiracy". But I could understand how it could be considered a conspiracy if you are only getting your news from mainstream sources and not paying much attention to anything else.

That might be true. However, there are a number of folks in Europe who feel duped as much as we do. Also, I don't see our "alphabet soup" lame-stream media going after the "Climategate" story. Maybe it's only a "Vast Right-Wing" and Fox News conspiracy.

"It's America's fault"! Priceless. (But I thought it was Bush's fault ... ) I fail to see how "Climatgate" is "American". The University of East Anglia is in the UK and the emails that started the current "Climategate" scandal were hacked to a server in Russia.

Killer funnel-web spiders invade Sydney "We've had a long spell of very warm weather combined with rain," said Mary Rayner, general manager of the Australian Reptile Park. "They are starting to come in thick and fast." ... Rex Gilroy, who runs a dangerous spiders hotline in the area, told the Sydney Morning Herald: "I think climate change might have something to do with it. This season there's more moisture and coolness, and the spiders have been able to breed up..."

Both sides cannot be true. Either the earth is warming or it is not. Either man is causing GW or we are not. That is where the scientific method and debate comes in. The pro GW/"CC" advocates attempted to stop the debate, and called a (IMO premature) "victory" when they stated: "the science is settled." Those of us who are skeptical beg to differ. To claim "victory" when the science is far from settled while the welfare of our planet Earth is at stake is arrogant and dangerous. You cannot, as a scientist, claim "I WON!", pick up your marbles and go home and start influencing policy that costs trillions of dollars and will affect billions of people. Adults don't act that way. Science doesn't work that way. We need to be smarter than this.

Those of us who believe GW/"CC" is a scam are labeled "deniers". The public at large has been told time and time again that the "science is settled". I am not a "denier". I am a skeptic. And thanks to the time I invested investigating this issue further I am even more skeptical. The "science" of GW/"CC" is far from settled.

A Critical Perspective on Climategate

A recent segment from one of the original GW/"CC" skeptics. John Coleman was one of the first to label global warming as "The Biggest Scam in History." I don't know about everyone else here, but I would be more willing to listen to a well-seasoned meteorologist, a Certified Consulting Meteorologist and a programmer than any politician.

Let's all share a group hug, have a few bro-mances, sing Kumbya ... and get back on topic. How Climategate killed "peer review".

Oh, no, WAIT. It's Global Warming, uh, er, I mean "Climate Change".

Antimatter.

Check the date of this story. I'm too old NOT to remember. You youthful but ignorant and arrogant "whipper snappers".

HUNDREDS of thousands of naked Hindu holy men heading for Britain to fight global warming.

Like, Rolling Stone, like, is into, like global warming, like, uh, er, I mean "climate change"!!! FAR OUT, MAN!! Just "don't Bogart that joint, my friend. Pass it over to me." FAR OUT, MAN!

I would shy away from Dell. They used to be great (I had two Dells in a row) but for a while I have heard nothing but complaints. Poor customer service. Poor warranty work. Rumor has it it happened shortly after Dell closed down their US-based customer service center and moved it overseas.

EVEN FOX NEWS HAS JOINED THE CABAL!!!

How convenient.

Tell that to my boss.

Python -Monty

Indeed. I hear the all this talk about Government Motors (GM) and the other auto manufacturers building electric/hybrid cars by next year but no real talk about how we are going to provide all of these cars with electricity. I must be missing something, but I can't, for the life of me figure out why we are not talking about the fastest and best solution to cure our dependency on fossil fuels NOW: nuclear power. We are so short-sighted. We have a nuclear plant in DETROIT, forcryinoutloud. And Detroit just got approval to put another reactor online. It takes 10 years (minimum) to get approvals for a nuclear plant in the US. And the 0bama administration (or anyone in Washington for that matter) is saying nothing about it. Where are the priorities? Really?

Climategate.com. Wish I had thought of this. I believe this whole global warming/"climate change" scam has already started to fade into the trash heap of history. Earthlings are better for it. A healthy amount of skepticism - towards anything - is a Good Thing when the amount of skepticism is proportional to the claims being made. But I'm afraid scientists (of any sort that might have global influence) and their sycophant "sheeple" have collectively taken a very painful, self-inflicted shot to the shorts. They have a way to go to clean up their collective reputations. I'll be making some final comments here soon and allow this thread die. Thanks to everyone who who had something encouraging, intelligent and/or challenging to contribute.

Use an ultrasonic sensor (or are they radar?) like they use to open the door at the grocery store. Make it battery powered. Wear four sensors for 360 coverage. (I'm picturing someone with something on their head that resembles an air raid siren.) On top of that would be a can of mace mounted to a rotary actuator that would have a linear actuator attached in such a way that could activate the spray button. When someone approaches (you could even set the sensitivity) your software would triangulate direction, speed, etc., rotate the can of mace to the proper direction and spray the Whoop @ss. You would be more dangerous than a rabid skunk.

Mother Nature Herself is conspiring against global warming. Uh, er, I mean "climate change".