Neil Pate

@Rolf Kalbermatter my team and I still use in some systems here! In fact this very last week we have needed to add some lua stuff to an old project.

You resurrecting LuaVIEW?

Yeah I also got as far as the login page and noped right out of there, I did not realise it was available to download.

yes

The Weather Station example that ships with LabVIEW shows a bit of this. but the data is not Base64, its just a pure characters,

@Thomas Robertson 18k VIs? OK, that is quite a big project. Have you tried splitting things up, maybe introducing a few PPLs?

You might have more success posting this on the Discord. Most of the conversations happen there these days.

but not quite as punny... or am I just not smart enough to get that one?

Love the choice of embedded image 🙂

Literally never. Which is why I value your input into the community so much. (No sarcasm intended). Would love to sit down and have a few beers/coffee sometime and muse about the state of many things LabVIEW-ish and other stuff.

Phew that is a pretty strong opinion! Although I personally am not a fan of the overall style of DQMH none of my problems are with the scripting/wizards or placeholder text. I think any framework that tries to do "a lot" will be complicated... your own personal framework (which you likely find trivial to use) is likely to be a bit weird to others. DQMH is extremely popular for a reason... To paraphrase the words of a wiser person than I, "please don't yuck someone elses yum"

@Mahbod Morshedi no need to apologise at all. This is a journey for everyone and all the opinions here are given with absolute kindness in mind, just sometimes the message gets lost in text. If you add new features to your application, there is no need to make a new wire. Assuming you have some kind of core cluster you would just have a single wire through the whole application and you can add new stuff into this cluster. Now, that will start to get clumsy at some point (when it reaches what we sometimes call "megacluster" status). To prevent this from happening it is normally better to try partition your application into independent things, (loops) that contain just the data they care about. Then each thing becomes simpler. Then you need to figure out how to communicate between these things and you go down a rabbit hole. Have you looked at one of the popular frameworks like DQMH?

yes but I think X means creating polymorphic instances for all the unique typedefs/clusters inside, so not just the normal primitives that you can create once and forget about.

yup, completely agree with this ^^^^ I have done something similar in the past where I used a global variant as a data store, and then used attributes to store/get data (and some convenience VIs to convert to the known types). It was a bit of an experiment in a system that had many data generators (different interfaces to independent pieces of hardware) and several hundreds of data variables (tags) all communicated over OPC-UA, so had a fairly sophisticated method to set/get by name as I didn't want to deal with such a mega-cluster anywhere. It worked fine, but in the end I would not really recommend it for simple systems where you just dont want to make the proper data types.

Well then I don't get the question I suppose.