The biggest scam in history

[Phillip Brooks]

One of them said "Where exactly do we stick the thermometer to measure the temperature of the earth?" and the other one said "how do you do a scientific experiment to prove it one way or the other, without a control?'

There's a Uranus joke in this somewhere

Edited January 21, 2010 by Phillip Brooks

[Grampa_of_Oliva_n_Eden]

Ben wrote "One of them said "Where exactly do we stick the thermometer to measure the temperature of the earth?" "

There's a Uranus joke in this somewhere

My reply at that time was "Not in MY back yard."

Ben

[PaulG.]

Killer funnel-web spiders invade Sydney

"We've had a long spell of very warm weather combined with rain," said Mary Rayner, general manager of the Australian Reptile Park. "They are starting to come in thick and fast." ... Rex Gilroy, who runs a dangerous spiders hotline in the area, told the Sydney Morning Herald: "I think climate change might have something to do with it. This season there's more moisture and coolness, and the spiders have been able to breed up..."

[JasonXCX]

Killer funnel-web spiders invade Sydney

"We've had a long spell of very warm weather combined with rain," said Mary Rayner, general manager of the Australian Reptile Park. "They are starting to come in thick and fast." ... Rex Gilroy, who runs a dangerous spiders hotline in the area, told the Sydney Morning Herald: "I think climate change might have something to do with it. This season there's more moisture and coolness, and the spiders have been able to breed up..."

In France most most people think that climatgate is very american, some kind of conspiration plot , very Dan Brown . The global warming is seen as a fact, ( the measurement of the air bubble in the antartic ice show it, it has been made by different labs from differents wells ) . One point I can see is wine . The wine has more alcool than before sometimes 14°( 11/12 before in south of France ) in Alsace the Riesling has too much sugar. And you can find winery in south England .

[PaulG.]

In France most most people think that climatgate is very american, some kind of conspiration plot , very Dan Brown ...

"It's America's fault"!

Priceless.

(But I thought it was Bush's fault ... )

I fail to see how "Climatgate" is "American". The University of East Anglia is in the UK and the emails that started the current "Climategate" scandal were hacked to a server in Russia.

Edited January 22, 2010 by PaulG.

[Gary Rubin]

"It's America's fault"!

Priceless.

(But I thought it was Bush's fault ... )

I fail to see how "Climatgate" is "American". The University of East Anglia is in the UK and the emails that started the current "Climategate" scandal were hacked to a server in Russia.

My guess is that it's the reaction to the whole thing (i.e. "Climate Gate") that's thought of as an American thing. My feeling is that much of the rest of the Western world (other than us) think of climate change as a non-controversial fact.

Edited January 22, 2010 by Gary Rubin

[PaulG.]

My guess is that it's the reaction to the whole thing (i.e. "Climate Gate") that's thought of as an American thing. My feeling is that much of the rest of the Western world (other than us) think of climate change as a non-controversial fact.

That might be true. However, there are a number of folks in Europe who feel duped as much as we do. Also, I don't see our "alphabet soup" lame-stream media going after the "Climategate" story. Maybe it's only a "Vast Right-Wing" and Fox News conspiracy.

[JasonXCX]

My guess is that it's the reaction to the whole thing (i.e. "Climate Gate") that's thought of as an American thing. My feeling is that much of the rest of the Western world (other than us) think of climate change as a non-controversial fact.

It is exactly what I wanted to say. Nobody believe that global warming is an invention of a huge conspiration of scientist .

[Grampa_of_Oliva_n_Eden]

How can we take global warming seriously when it looks like hell is about to freeze over?

See quote from Tbob below

The following was posted in the Breakpoint on the dark side by Tbob. see here

http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=BreakPoint&message.id=10388&query.id=2672874#M10388

"

Here is a cajun Boudreaux/Thibodeaux joke about the Saints:

Boudreaux and Thibodeaux died and went to hell. The devil asked them if it was hot enough. Boudreaux replied, "What do you think Thib? About a typical day in June huh!"

The devil gets pissed, turns up the furnace. Now everyone is sweating buckshot. Devil asks again and Boudreaux replies, "Hmmm, about the same as a typical day in July huh Thib."

The devil gets even madder and turns the heat up full blast. Sweat is just pouring from everyone. Devil asks again and Boudreaus says, "Whew it is hot, about the same as a typical day in August." Thibodeaux replies, "Yeah that's just about right."

Devil is extremely angry, shuts down the furnace and turns on the A/C full blast. Sweat turned to icicles. Boudreaux and Thibodeaux are dancing and singing and carrying on. The Devil shouts out, "What the hell is going on now?" They both replied joyfully, "The Saints won the Super Bowl, the Saints won the Super Bowl!!!!"

Hey, it could happen!

"

[PaulG.]

It is exactly what I wanted to say. Nobody believe that global warming is an invention of a huge conspiration of scientist .

I don't think I've ever said that this scam is a "huge" "conspiration" of scientists. There are a few at UEA that most definitely conspired - on numerous occasions - but it's bigger than that. It's in-your-face FRAUD. It's not much of a conspiracy if major players are refusing to release data under Freedom of Information Act requests where the requests themselves are public knowledge and open for scrutiny. Governments and politicians are not scientists but they are heavily involved in this scam and again, it's not much of a conspiracy since many of the nations involved are democratic and open. The media spikes stories all the time if it does not fit the political view of the station managers and owners. That's why "mainstream" sources such as ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, BBC, NYT, NPR all pretty much say the same thing about GW/"CC" and are not reporting much on it unless it supports GW/"CC". But we have alternatives to the alphabet soup. That is why I don't think of it as a "conspiracy". But I could understand how it could be considered a conspiracy if you are only getting your news from mainstream sources and not paying much attention to anything else.

[PaulG.]

Is CBS moving in on this story?!

All taxpayers across the globe should pay attention to squandered tax dollars, but more importantly, we should all pay extra attention to the carbon footprint left in Copenhagen by the "elite" Global Warming/"Climate Change" hypocrites.

[crelf]

100s turn out at global warming protest rally:

[Cat]

100s turn out at global warming protest rally:

And they look so ANGRY, too!

[Grampa_of_Oliva_n_Eden]

And they look so ANGRY, too!

[set PunMode = True]

It is that cold stare that make them seem that way. Snow man can stay angry that long after chilling for a while.

[set PunMode = Flase]

Ben

[ShaunR]

Sorry Peeps.

Couldn't post these in a PM so ignore me as I post them here for Cat.

As Promised Cat.

[Cat]

Couldn't post these in a PM so ignore me as I post them here for Cat.

Thanks for the input, Shaun! I guess you don't fully appreciate my "modern art" avatar.

Back to PM before we are severely reprimanded for being off-topic...

[PaulG.]

Negating "Climategate": Copenhagen Talks and Climate Science Survive Stolen E-Mail Controversy

From "Scientific" American. Read the comments that follow.

[PaulG.]

Awesome nuclear power.

25 MW that can fit in your basement.

At 1/3 the cost of "conventional" nuclear.

Edited January 31, 2010 by PaulG.

[PaulG.]

I love it when I'm right.

For Phil Jones to admit any of this demands my utmost respect.

"Hey, boss ..."

" ... These stations, they believe, have been seriously compromised by factors such as urbanisation, changes in land use and, in many cases, being moved from site to site..."

"Hey, boss. Since we can't prove global warming for the last 15 years or so would it be OK if I stick this thermistor up your @SS?!"

Global warming, uh, umm I mean "cliimate change": The biggest scam in history.

Edited February 22, 2010 by PaulG.

[PaulG.]

Climate scientists hope independent reviews will reverse public’s loss of trust.

Good luck with that. It's kind of hard for a review if much of the original data were DELETED.

This is my 666 post. I must be the Global Warming/"Climate change" antichrist.

Edited February 26, 2010 by PaulG.

[torekp]

When I read the title of the thread, I wondered if the "biggest scam" was the global warming hypothesis or the elevation of Phil Jones's misconduct to "-gate" levels.

I'm still wondering.

[Rolf Kalbermatter]

It was a tongue-in-cheek commentary on common perception and the influence CO2 has had in public discourse. We created an entire industry and added hundreds of dollars to the cost of cars to cure the smog problem and what did we get? Global warming. What crisis is going to grow out of alternative energy sources?

I know you didn't want to say that, but it sounds like cars didn't produce CO2 when they were still polluting the environment in heavy ways with sulfur, and many other things. And I agree that any alternative will also come with its own problems.

For me the real problem is not the particular energy we use to do what we do, but the sheer amount we use for that. No matter how you will get at that energy it will have sooner or later some impact on our environment. There can be variations in how dangerous or polluting that energy is, but I do not believe that there is any energy source that will not have some negative impacts on us if consumed in the amounts we currently do. And then to think that almost 1/2 of the human population is in fact in so called upcoming economies that strive seem to go to have the same energy consumption that we have!

[Shmekla]

"The biggest scam in history"... I thought the biggest scam in histoty ir religion.

Edited March 29, 2010 by Shmekla

[PaulG.]

"The biggest scam in history"... I thought the biggest scam in histoty ir religion.

Some of my more religious and conservative associates think Darwinism is the "biggest scam in history". But that's another thread on another forum, and it's not going to be started by me.

[crelf]

Sorry for the RSS bomb, but there's fresh news on the topic: 'No malpractice' by climate unit