TheBoss Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hi, i was wondering how much it would be to buy the Labview license for myself. Then noticed the price , so is there any discount out there or do you just use your companys version of the Labview?? Quote Link to comment
jgcode Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hi, i was wondering how much it would be to buy the Labview license for myself. Then noticed the price , so is there any discount out there or do you just use your companys version of the Labview?? This is what I have been told by my employer, it may not be 100% (and best to hear it from the horse's mouth) but it is my current understanding... So I have been told NI have loosened up the license restriction from years ago. Currently, for a standard purchase of LabVIEW you are allowed 3 installs with the notion that you will require the following (or similar setup): 1x Development Machine 1x Running System (for debugging) Machine 1x Home Machine I think that's pretty fair, although some my argue differently, as there is also this Idea out there: Noncommercial Hobby/Home license for LabVIEW which has really blown up in votes since I last saw it! But I am probably biased as we ran a VLM at my last job and this one we are a Certified Alliance Partner with a Dev Suite - so T&C are different. Quote Link to comment
jzoller Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Something to note... Using a home install of a company license may end up gifting your personal work to that company. If you wish to keep/open source/license/sell your work independently, make sure you know your employer's policies, your employment contract and local laws. Quote Link to comment
jgcode Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Something to note... Using a home install of a company license may end up gifting your personal work to that company. If you wish to keep/open source/license/sell your work independently, make sure you know your employer's policies, your employment contract and local laws. Good point! My post was related to working on company work, on a company license, so I have no idea what your company's policies are... ...Heck I better find out what mine are Quote Link to comment
Ton Plomp Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 I use the license of my employer at home. However every once a year I look into buying one myself (preferable a used license) or a debug license which are cheaper. My employer is not interested in the code I produce at home, nor has the intention of ever selling code themself, my contract was just 2 pages. Our IT-rules say that I can install a local copy of MS Office for instance, and they don't make a note that they have the IP on the documents I write with MS Office, I extrapolate this guideline into a field of interest. (on the same basis I use Total Commander at home, which would be the second piece of software I would buy when starting my own company). Ton Quote Link to comment
ShaunR Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 This is what I have been told by my employer, it may not be 100% (and best to hear it from the horse's mouth) but it is my current understanding... So I have been told NI have loosened up the license restriction from years ago. Currently, for a standard purchase of LabVIEW you are allowed 3 installs with the notion that you will require the following (or similar setup): 1x Development Machine 1x Running System (for debugging) Machine 1x Home Machine I think that's pretty fair, although some my argue differently, as there is also this Idea out there: Noncommercial Hobby/Home license for LabVIEW which has really blown up in votes since I last saw it! But I am probably biased as we ran a VLM at my last job and this one we are a Certified Alliance Partner with a Dev Suite - so T&C are different. Not quite.. Here are the licensing options. They are quite clear. Quote Link to comment
jgcode Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Not quite.. Here are the licensing options. They are quite clear. Its pretty close to what I said re: home licence - you get at least one. Quote Link to comment
TheBoss Posted December 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 This is what I have been told by my employer, it may not be 100% (and best to hear it from the horse's mouth) but it is my current understanding... So I have been told NI have loosened up the license restriction from years ago. Currently, for a standard purchase of LabVIEW you are allowed 3 installs with the notion that you will require the following (or similar setup): 1x Development Machine 1x Running System (for debugging) Machine 1x Home Machine I think that's pretty fair, although some my argue differently, as there is also this Idea out there: Noncommercial Hobby/Home license for LabVIEW which has really blown up in votes since I last saw it! But I am probably biased as we ran a VLM at my last job and this one we are a Certified Alliance Partner with a Dev Suite - so T&C are different. My problem at the moment is i've got a new job which starts tomorrow. But they may not necessarily buy Labview immediately, thats one of the reasons why i'm looking into my own license. Quote Link to comment
jgcode Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 My problem at the moment is i've got a new job which starts tomorrow. But they may not necessarily buy Labview immediately, thats one of the reasons why i'm looking into my own license. LabVIEW has a 30-day eval, might buy you some time to use it? Don't think you can build exe with it tho. Quote Link to comment
TheBoss Posted December 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 LabVIEW has a 30-day eval, might buy you some time to use it? Don't think you can build exe with it tho. Good idea Quote Link to comment
jdunham Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 My problem at the moment is i've got a new job which starts tomorrow. But they may not necessarily buy Labview immediately, thats one of the reasons why i'm looking into my own license. Also you could enlist the help of your local NI sales rep. You can find out his or her contact info at NI's web site. That person's full-time job is to try to get your employer to buy LabVIEW, so s/he might be really good at that. I have no doubt the rep would like to hear from you. That person pretty much has authority to let you use a full LabVIEW licesnse as long as your company needs while it is making a decision. Jason Quote Link to comment
ShaunR Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Also you could enlist the help of your local NI sales rep. You can find out his or her contact info at NI's web site. That person's full-time job is to try to get your employer to buy LabVIEW, so s/he might be really good at that. I have no doubt the rep would like to hear from you. That person pretty much has authority to let you use a full LabVIEW licesnse as long as your company needs while it is making a decision. Jason This can backfire quite spectacularly. My experience has been that a companies( generally) won't spend any money unless they really, really have to. If there is a legitimate way to use labview without paying (either long-term or short term) then it is usually argued by the bean counters' that it is not a necessity to buy now and once you have used the goodwill, then the evaluation...they will consider it again (you only make it easier for them to delay). I've always found it far better to argue that the project cannot proceed at all and is at risk unless a licence is bought, and, although an evaluation is available, it has already been used during the feasibility phase. It can put you in an uncomfortable position where the NI rep is pressing you for an order, but the accounts dept are dragging their feet (you are after all only one of many requirements for monies) and you are piggy in the middle. Quote Link to comment
jdunham Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 This can backfire quite spectacularly... Well, sure, and your next baseball game might rain out too. But the OP should try to get his or her company to do the right thing, and my point is that one doesn't necessarily have to go it alone. There shouldn't be any reason to contemplate buying your own LV license if you are working for a responsible company. If you are working at a new company and you find out they won't invest in the tools you need to do your job, or that they steal from other companies, that's a sign that you have not found a great place to work. Quote Link to comment
Roderic Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 You cannot build .exe with LabVIEW eval, nor with the student edition (which I use and has almost every functionality of LabVIEW) . Quote Link to comment
jgcode Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 If you are working at a new company and you find out they won't invest in the tools you need to do your job, or that they steal from other companies, that's a sign that you have not found a great place to work. Thats a really good point. Although I am sure this happens more out there than I would like to think it does! Quote Link to comment
ShaunR Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Well, sure, and your next baseball game might rain out too. But the OP should try to get his or her company to do the right thing, and my point is that one doesn't necessarily have to go it alone. There shouldn't be any reason to contemplate buying your own LV license if you are working for a responsible company. If you are working at a new company and you find out they won't invest in the tools you need to do your job, or that they steal from other companies, that's a sign that you have not found a great place to work. I'd choose an in-door court But then I plan for failure I don't think there are many companies that would expect you to produce code without the tools to do it. Which had me wondering why the OP is being put in this position in the first place. Or indeed, why the question has even arisen. It's like asking a chauffeur to drive you to the ball with no car But it's not a case of "stealing" or won't invest. It's a case of not investing until you absolutely have too (different budgets, different invoice dates, cash flow). And unfortunately, its the bean counters' that run companies now-a-days and an accountant doesn't give 2 hoots if you have to make an aeroplane with a fork and a piece of bamboo, Just as long as you do and his figures add up at the end of it. Quote Link to comment
jcarmody Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 I have a student version of LabVIEW 2009 for my kids (home school). 1 Quote Link to comment
Cat Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Not quite.. Here are the licensing options. They are quite clear. "The software may be executing on only one computer at a time." Hmm. I definitely violate this one. I run source on two computers to debug sending and receiving data. Oops. Then again, since I have 3 licenses registered to me, I'm probably ok. Quote Link to comment
ShaunR Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 "The software may be executing on only one computer at a time." Hmm. I definitely violate this one. I run source on two computers to debug sending and receiving data. Oops. Then again, since I have 3 licenses registered to me, I'm probably ok. Does that mean you get 3 salaries since you're obviously doing the work of 3 people Quote Link to comment
asbo Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hmm. I definitely violate this one. I run source on two computers to debug sending and receiving data. Oops. I think the VM loophole gets around that one anyway Quote Link to comment
Cat Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Does that mean you get 3 salaries since you're obviously doing the work of 3 people I'm forwarding this to my boss. Quote Link to comment
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