martin@aerodynamics Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Download File:post-1396-1164192597.wmvWhow! :thumbup: pretty cool stuff - how long did it take to programm that? Thanks!I don't really know how long...First it took a while before I understood the behaviour of the 3D Picture Control... including things like Parent - Child behaviour, Transformations, joint etc...Then the real programing part lets tell about 1-2 days...But the code is a mess, its my biggest diagramm I have ever "painted" since it was / is only a test to see what you can do with the 3d Control...and there are currently no subvis used and you need aprox. 15*10cm to define a single element... so you can imagine but if I will realy use this program it has to fit to one screen 1280*1024 (not someting like a 60" screen like now)...Yeah - let's see a demo! What kind of demo?In a week we putting the system into operation...The mechanic part is arround 15years old an we are "just" changing the control System (New RT-PXI, SW, Encoders...)If you realy want to see a demo you can visit our Wind Tunnel in Switzerland. That's usually no problem...Very cool! What happened to the F-14's wings? I just took a free 3d-model from the www...and I didn't realy cared about the wings... now I have more 3d models, but I was to lazy to import another 3d model (with wings) and to make another movie... Quote Link to comment
i2dx Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 But the code is a mess, its my biggest diagramm I have ever "painted" since it was / is only a test to see what you can do with the 3d Control...and there are currently no subvis used and you need aprox. 15*10cm to define a single element... <giggle> hehe ... happy refactoring but to be honest - I now how it is, if you discover a new functionality - you are interested in results, not in pretty code :beer: BTW: do you work for alstom/ch? Quote Link to comment
martin@aerodynamics Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 BTW: do you work for alstom/ch? Click => my Profile => Click => Information => Homepage => RUAG Aerospace Emmen, Switzerland Center Aerodynamic (Wind Tunnel) Quote Link to comment
crelf Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 The movie shows a vi created with the 3d picture control... Nice work - that looks like it would have been fun! :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
jpdrolet Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Nice work! :thumbup: To Michael: This is worth its own thread... Quote Link to comment
martin@aerodynamics Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Nice work - that looks like it would have been fun! :thumbup: Thanks but you wouldn't say that if you saw the diagram... For me programming LabVIEW application and "nonsens applications" http://forums.lavag.org/index.php?showtopi...entry4845 and "playing arround with LabVIEW is fun! As well as sometimes work of course... Nice work! :thumbup: To Michael: This is worth its own thread... Thanks Nice Idea we could start a 3D LAVA thread or someting... Quote Link to comment
i2dx Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 To Michael: This is worth its own thread... hmm ... I don't think so. These postings make sense here, because it's topic is about the fifth dimension. But the fifth dimension is hard to get and therefore it makes sense to start with the well known 3 dimensions, which are shown in martins post. Maybe we add some information about spacetime here and then - who knows? - we are maybe able to proceed to the 5th dimension? It would be really interesting to know, how to programm in 5 dimensions Quote Link to comment
Barrie Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 It would be really interesting to know, how to programm in 5 dimensions Perhaps, but I would be happy if I could just control the polarity and magnitude of the fourth dimension, it would give me more time to study, well..... and of course other important things, like :beer: . Quote Link to comment
LAVA 1.0 Content Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 It would be really interesting to know, how to programm in 5 dimensions If one of the five dimensions would be time, and you consider time to behave as it does now, then you would only have four spatial dimensions left to deal with. Perhaps your computer would have three dimensional screen trying to display projections of four dimensional objects. Your LabVIEW programs would be three dimensional as well and nodes would be boxes. Instead of wires, you'd have pipes connecting the cubes. Front panel would be a shell around your block diagram so that you could really see your front panel connecting to your block diagram by zooming trough the front panel surface. The fron panel doesn't of course need to be flat, it can be any surface connected to your block diagram with pipes. When you debug your program you would of course see the data flowing inside the hollow pipes. Additional dimension would make your programs really more like spagetti with some meat cubes mixed in. LAVA would hold yearly programming competition on who can create a program that looks most like spagetti. Quote Link to comment
alfa Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 How I see the 5th dimension? Our Universe is separated by another Universe by a small distance (Planck length 10-33 cm). When our Universe was created a lot of parallel Universes were created separated by a small distance. The Universes are not identical; the one who had more energy is more evolved. How I explained in my book with the third law of Evolution: Nonlinearity of the Evolution: The higher level of Evolution evolves faster Quote Link to comment
crelf Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Our Universe is separated by another Universe by a small distance (Planck length 10-33 cm). So I just need to take a really really short walk along some sort of Planck to get there? Quote Link to comment
LAVA 1.0 Content Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 So I just need to take a really really short walk along some sort of Planck to get there? Well, according to uncertainity principle of quantum mechanics, you should already at least partially be there (or it depends on your wave (step) length and walking speed). Quote Link to comment
crelf Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well, according to uncertainity principle of quantum mechanics, you should already at least partially be there (or it depends on your wave (step) length and walking speed). Don't look at me - you'll change where I am! Quote Link to comment
AnalogKid2DigitalMan Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 So I just need to take a really really short walk along some sort of Planck to get there? Zeno will never let you reach the end of the Planck. You should try a pair a docks (paradox) Quote Link to comment
crelf Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Zeno will never let you reach the end of the Planck. You should try a pair a docks (paradox) Does that mean that I could step over the 5th dimension, or tunnel through it? Quote Link to comment
peteski Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Don't look at me - you'll change where I am! And just how certain are you of where you are, dear sir? Quote Link to comment
crelf Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 And just how certain are you of where you are, dear sir? Nicely done! Quote Link to comment
Yair Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 URGENT!!! I have lost my 5th dimension! It should be small (about Planck length wide and 4 miles long), sort of roundish-squarish and colored orange. If anyone finds it, please email it back to me. Quote Link to comment
crelf Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 I have lost my 5th dimension! Aw crap - did you want that? Sorry - I saw it lying around and didn't think anyone wanted it (especially since it's the orange type), so I put it on eBay. don't worry though - there's plenty to go around... Quote Link to comment
alfa Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Are there millions parallel universes connected by small wormholes (Planck dimension), said Stephen Hawkins Quote Link to comment
jpdrolet Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Are there millions parallel universes connected by small wormholes (Planck dimension), said Stephen Hawkins If these universes are truly parallel, then by definition they are NOT connected... Quote Link to comment
crelf Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 If these universes are truly parallel, then by definition they are NOT connected... Parallel lines don't connect, but lines ("wormholes") perpendicular to them provide the links. Quote Link to comment
jpdrolet Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Parallel lines don't connect, but lines ("wormholes") perpendicular to them provide the links. And connecting wormholes belong to which (un)connected universe :question: And the Universe being the sum of all that exists, how can there be many of them :question: And when the transporter gets you out of quantum phase and you are invisible and pass through walls, why don't you pass through floors :question: And when you're invisible how can you see if the ligth passes through your eyes? Quote Link to comment
Grampa_of_Oliva_n_Eden Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 And connecting wormholes belong to which (un)connected universe :question: And the Universe being the sum of all that exists, how can there be many of them :question: And when the transporter gets you out of quantum phase and you are invisible and pass through walls, why don't you pass through floors :question: And when you're invisible how can you see if the ligth passes through your eyes? As I understand it Godel (sp?) proved that an system can NOT be proved from within a system. 1) How can we as elements of single dimension prove what lies outside our dimension? :question: What we need here is a quantity we can measure. If we can measure it we can prove it. Remeber it was an experiment to prove the quatum mechanical phenomenon can be measured on a macroscopic sclae that lead to the transistor. 2) What 5th dimenstional atribute can we measure? 3) Can we turn a profit from it? Ben Quote Link to comment
crelf Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 What we need here is a quantity we can measure. If we can measure it we can prove it. Which is parallel to the famous quote: "From metrics comes knowledge, from knowledge comes understanding, from understanding comes enlightenment." Quote Link to comment
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