Jordan Kuehn

While I find the discussion regarding the usefulness of a FP in many VIs to be lacking, I do think the idea of flat out removing it is a bit much. First, the unit testing argument is very compelling to me, or even very simple testing by manipulating the FP manually and seeing the results is helpful at times. Further, In my mind the FP/BD combo is one of the more powerful and unique features in LabVIEW. It facilitates the construction of a UI unlike anything else I've seen and it's tightly integrated with the code. There is no process of building a UI, then tying every element to some tag that gets update by underlying code or whatnot. The strong relationship with BD elements to FP elements is a benefit, rather than something tedious to me. This is why I'd like to be able to hit clean-up when I don't care about the FP and have it look organized and standardized without any additional effort.

That and seeing the topic shift toward visual IDEs that generate text code (HTML/CSS/etc.) are fundamentally different from LabVIEW but it seems to be the way that people view LV. Visual == bloat in many minds. Or the past marketing has limited the scope of LV in peoples' minds to just DAQ and R&D.

Found this today. It's interesting to me to read what non-labview people have to say about it. http://lifehacker.com/im-curious-what-are-everyones-opinion-on-visual-vs-w-1442104740 Edit// It tends to slide into discussions about HTML/CSS style visual editors after a bit.

Kudo'd. Thanks!

What about front panel clean up? Just arrange everything like they are tied to the connector pane and stack unconnected items in the middle. Often in subvi's I just want the left side stacked up in line with the error in and the right side the same with the error out.

I don't know of any like that, and would point you to doing it yourself if you wanted to truly trust it. RhodeCode that I mentioned before would be at the top of my list.

To clarify, are you saying that you want the functionality of the vision development system, but your user doesn't want to pay for the runtime license?

Perhaps the best solution is active mods. This seems to fall into the "I know it when I see it" category.

I do suggest reading through my linked document. It will give you some help determining which implementation is best for your use case. At a very very rough guess if an FGV works for you, a Network Shared Variable (NSV) may be a better solution for you. There are some out-of-the-box solutions from NI and a few others that transition to a custom implementation. The important thing is to understand the options and choose what is best for your application. Good luck with your choice. More details and I think we'd be more than wiling to guide you to the appropriate transport mechanism.

You will need to implement some communication mechanism to pass data back and forth between the two targets. Try reading the material here.

That's essentially the same thing?

Try adjusting the thresholds on the peak detection.. I debated including a graph of the derivative or not. It will behave differently than the RMS, and I'm not even suggesting it is the best option, but it can be useful.

If you went this route you could replace the hilbert function with this implementation in what I sent you and still capture the transitions in a similar fashion. Lots of options.

Here is one simple implementation using a Hilbert Transform and taking a derivative of the envelope. Here's some reading that covers way more about this transform than matters for this discussion, but has a nice picture at the bottom of page 8. Something similar could be done with the ptbypt RMS suggestion you have on your dark side thread.. Take what you want from it.

Thanks for all of these!!

In general it is almost always beneficial to spend some time in advance modeling what you want it to do before actually touching any code. The cases where it isn't are typically trivial.

I think it's a great idea. It can be a pain to switch back and forth between the block diagram and project explorer at times. I'll download and take a look, but I can't promise any cool tricks to fix your crashes.

Has anyone figured out how to export the agenda to a calendar file? Either I'm missing something or they've removed the best feature. I want to get it into my work calendar so it shows up on my phone without using the app.

Something like this happened to me in LV 2011. After going through many posts and having no success, I was able to move the project to 2012 and have not had the issue since with either existing 2011 projects or the one moved to 2012. YMMV, and I would hardly call it a fix.

https://www.ni.com/training/

They are just like any other cluster when it comes to setting the value. The more interesting question is how to determine what your ROI is at runtime. This will likely require some user input or some image processing if it's not a static region.

Ah, I misinterpreted the email. The "/" character separates the user name and password rather than providing some extra secure password. Doh!

The app is in the iPhone app store. NIWeek 2013. It has times for everything, but you have to log in to schedule anything. I have been unsuccessful so far. It sent me a password, but it doesn't seem to work.

Yes, yes it does. You are looking for "Open Front Panel" when you right click. Works for the acquisition and assistant express VIs (and every express VI I've seen).