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"I think she's got it!" (Proffesor Higgen, My Fair Lady) IN LV all variables live in wires (or shift registers). I believe you can select code to exclude from the clean-up. You can use the paint brush tool to color your code. Ben

I believe OpneG has a ready made solution but if you want to "roll-your-own" you can take advatage of the order of a cluster to accomplish this task. Create an array of clusters with each cluster representing one line. Set the cluster order such that the primary serach field is first then secondary seach field. Pass that througha "sort 1-d array" , unpack the cluster, done. Ben

In all cases except those that screamed "bug" LV will schedule all reads on that wire to happen prior to any operation that changes the data. Of course if the wire branches too two functions that mod the data, then we have the classic "Data copy on wire branch" situation. The UI switch technicality is of particular concern if GUI update performance is an issue. Another thought... If those property reads are just looking at stuff the code already could have known (property set by code in the first place) then looking to the control for that info is a problem in itself. Ben

I asked that same question when I took LV basics I and the answer I got was "tripple-click". Outside of LV the "triple-click" is not used often in user interfaces so it is not something someone would just guess. Ben

Yair's suggestion to talk to the local NI rep is a good idea. A version that did not allow creatting exe's for use at home to learn LV can only (?) lead to a future NI customer. Talk to them and see if they can help. Ben

And I am the exact opposite (formative years were spent living in Duluth Minnasota). I generally reply to the "Well is it cold enough for you?" with the reply, "Its OK and I prefer this to the summer. In the winter you just put on another layer of clothes. In the summer the are days when you can't take enough off." Ben

... and I thought I was a stick in the mud. As a regular user of the Hierachy screen, the changes that were added in LV 2009 are really nice. Is this a self-imposed exercise in discipline? Ben

Thank Yair! I had failed to notice my house has stopped smelling like Kerosene. How did you know? Ben

Just my 2 cents... Faith. Faith is belief in the unseen or unproven. Knowledge on the other hand comes from proof or eveidence. I don't know how well the following analogy will go in places were dogs are bad but here goes anyway. lets say i wanted a pet and I had to choose between a real dog with real short-comings and building a robot dog. The robot dog would alwys do the right thing because I programmed to do the right thing. Now in the case of the real dog, its actions are not neccesarily programmed (trained). A When it meets me at the door excited to see me, it means a lot more than if the robot did it. So now cast yourself for the moment as God and ask yourself if you would prefer to watch eternity play out with robots that always did waht was expeted and real creatures that had the oppertunity to choose to do good of their own accord. The story of Abraham and his willingness to sacrafice his ONLY son (in an age when a son represented social security) was a story of faith. To use the remains of a person of faith to PROVE defats the end goal of faith. Ben

I remember seeing radar of the storm system organizing over your place and quoting South Park "It's coming right at us!". Your loss was your gain. Ben

We are still having fun after the "Madness". I thought the adventure was over when my son finally got power back at his place after 7 days. WE still have streets blocked off due to power lines. Yestrday afternoon the roof colapsed on the rink where the local HS hockey team practices. it was an old structure (dating back to the era when iceskating was a cool date) that used laminated wood arches to hold up the roof. Five minutes earlier and there would have been teams on the ice. Unless insurance covers the collpase, I fear that is the last of the Rostraver Ice Center. Ben

You can give yourself the solution after a little hard work. Sit down and start filling those arrays by hand. As yo do so, start watching for patterns that you follow as you go. WHt you will find is there is a finite set of rules you have to follow to fill the array. After doing it manually a couple of times, right down a set of rules that describe how you decided to put what value where. The rules and procedure you come up with will then drive the nature of your code. Your rules and proceedures should answer question like... Where do I start? When do I continue working in a row or collumn? What does the maiximum and minimum indexes have to do with when I switch from rows to collumns? Once you have it written down such that you can pass the procedure off to a gifted asssistant, then start teh translation in code. For the most part we will not do your home-work for you, but we are willing to help those who want to learn. Ben

I can still hear the voice as I read that. Fast forward (Paraphrasing) >>> "It appears the only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?" Ben

Yes or if the output impeadance of the widget is high then an instrumentaion amp. Ben

Hi Sajib, If you are still istening, I'll offer some advice. 1) Stop working so hard to change fonts fonts in your posts. THe mixed fonts will shutdown most readers before they get to your question. Most people who will answer your questions on these forums are voluteers so don't make them work harder to help you. 2) LabVIEW has an evaluation period durring which you can use it for free. It is only after that time that you have to pay. 3) Post your question in both English and your native tongue. There are LabVIEW programmers all over the world and chances are someone would understand your Q. 4) Don't give up and run away. LabVIEW like many other langauges require you stick with it otherwise you are wasting your time. like I said, I am just trying to help, Ben

Exactly! I always said you were a fast learner. Hold it! Are you just twying to make twouble? Ben

If I ever find myself drowning with you Chris on the boat holding the life-preserver, I will have to rember not to yell "Does anyone have a Life-preserver?" but rather "Please throw that life-preserver!" I live up on a hill who's access round was originally layed out by the mules owned by the miners. The road is now one lane, that is effectively now "One way". The closest cleared place to park my car is now about a mile away if that situation does not change before I get home today. my wife and I both love the beauty of the snow but ones attitude is subject to change when not watching from home. Ben

"its here!" and its the heavy wet stuff. Ben

Sure, right after my house stops smelling like Kerosene and I have that tri-fuel emergency generator installed. I heard that (while we were sitting in a oil lmap lit living room) that the Super Bowl set a new record for number of viewers. Seems to me there should be an asterisk next to that record indicating "Weather assisted". Ben

Already anticipating the next and we're still dealing with the last. The storm dropped about 25 inches of the heavy wet stuff starting Friday night knocking out the power. We have been huddled around kerosene heaters and oil lamps. Road to my son's place was closed and even the four-wheel drives could not makes due down trees and power lines. They walked part of teh way after leaving the vehicle. Guy with chain saw who was clearing the trees let them ride in the bed of the truck. We eventually got teh first plow into out neighborhood on Sunday and it managed to slide down into my sister's yard. Took a front end loader to get him out. Gas stations are out of gas. kerosene, Huh!. I made it into work today with the next round due in about an hour and a half. My Aunt told me my father "was born in a snow storm so it only fitting that he leave in one." Ben

This question sounds like you are on the path I was when I wrote this Nugget on the Dark-side (NI). http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&thread.id=267659&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 In that Nugget I shared the code to see how I did it (cludge!). I had to resort to flattning the array to a variant and get the size then poke at the control until I made it bigger, then I knew what the size was in one dimension.. lather rinse repeat for the next dimention. So the Correct answr (I believe) is you can not know without knowing the data type in the array, but the above Nugget does show "It can be done". One of the reasons i posted that Nugget was to try and find a better way by posting that redicuous approach in the hopes someone would show me the "right way". I suspect there is no "right way". Ben

Yes. Ben

Never intended to put in the defence postion. Just pointing out that it is not a direct replacement for a book of a rock, which reminds me... . When I was in high school and getting beat up regualry for ... paying attention... I noticed one of my cheif tormentors* passing me coming the other way in the hall but had not noticed me. AS soon as he passed I dropped the 20 pounds of books I was carrying on the back of his head and proceeded to settle the score **. There are some things you can do with books (or rocks) you just would not concider doing with a reader. Ben * Currently serving a life sentence. ** THat is when my parents decided I would be better off in a private school.

AS a book collector, the tables and readers are just an expensive toy that will go the way of the phonograph (that at least I could still listen to as long as the turn-table was turning and I had a sewing needle). A libray should smell like a library and not a new laptop. My 100+ year old books will still be readable when those gizmos go absolete. THe physical interaction with a real book is part of my book experinece. I can jump to the page I am after based on the crumpled pages that occured when I fell asleep with it THAT time. I can keep my finger in multiple pages and flip back and forth in an instant. Reading a multi-volume series leaves you with no sense of accomplishment since You can't see volume four missing from the 6 volume series. Just last night I enjoyed watching Olivia (my grand daughter) sitting in a pile of books should pulled off the shelf as she flipped through the pages. Can't do that in electronic form. Ben

[set PunMode = True] It is that cold stare that make them seem that way. Snow man can stay angry that long after chilling for a while. [set PunMode = Flase] Ben