A Challenge To LVOOP

[Val Brown]

And for many people, that fastest route is LVOOP (especially if I'm taking the exam with LV 2012... hehehe).

hmmmmmmmmm sounds like a non-announcement announcement of an as yet unknown capability. To quote an old time radio show:

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows...."

We'll just have to wait to see what happens next.

[Daklu]

And for many people, that fastest route is LVOOP

I'm sure that is true; however, it seems to me that...

a) LVOOP will be the faster route only for those developers already experienced in OOD/OOP, and...

b) Experienced LVOOP developers will get limited value out of posted examples, while at the same time...

c) Inexperienced LVOOP developers will have a hard time understanding the design decisions and associated tradeoffs.

For those on the fence about using LVOOP on the CLD, I admit I used it on my CLD exam. (At least I'm pretty sure I did... it was several years ago.) In my case I got a coupon for a free exam so the cost of failure would only be a hit to my pride. I decided to use LVOOP partly to prove to myself I could do it, and partly because my thought process was so deeply OOP oriented I felt like it would be harder to switch back to traditional techniques for the exam. At the end of 4 hours I was not confident my solution would pass. It did, but in retrospect I think it would have been easier had I stuck with traditional techniques.

[ShaunR]

hmmmmmmmmm sounds like a non-announcement announcement of an as yet unknown capability.

Naaah. He just means they've added more wizards

So.

Anyone offering the car wash and traffic lights?

[0_o]

I just stumbled upon this link: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code

It contains a very poor selection of code examples and I don't think you can upload entire projects so the sophistication level is low and limited.

However, I love the idea!

I don't remember where I saw it but I think LV 2012 is going to have project templates besides vit.

If that is true I would love to share and learn from both solutions to LV exams and from general end to end project examples that cover all the bases down to testing a product.

Little by little LV could get an entire toolbox of add-ons that supports code development just like Java users do with projects like Eclipse.

[Aristos Queue]

Naaah. He just means they've added more wizards

Yep. Lovely lovely wizards. :-)

[Tim_S]

I'm sure that is true; however, it seems to me that...

a) LVOOP will be the faster route only for those developers already experienced in OOD/OOP, and...

b) Experienced LVOOP developers will get limited value out of posted examples, while at the same time...

c) Inexperienced LVOOP developers will have a hard time understanding the design decisions and associated tradeoffs.

I agree with (a), but would argue (b) and ©. Experience does not equate to skilled and even a skilled programmer can get something out of an example. Inexperienced people can learn from the example and should (not will, should) ask questions if they don't understand something.

[Stagg54]

for what it is worth, I passed the CLA with an LVOOP implementation.

unfortunately I can't post it (for obvious reasons)

[Aristos Queue]

The first rule about Beta-Club is you do not talk about Beta-Club!

True... and I should probably set a better example for customers who are in Beta Club... but I get some special dispensation from time to time.

[Val Brown]

True... and I should probably set a better example for customers who are in Beta Club... but I get some special dispensation from time to time.

....as I said, new capability: wizards and dispensation to "announce" them, surreptitiously.