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16 hours ago, hooovahh said:

I understand Rolf's concern, and others should listen.  However of all the NI software I've gotten from non-NI sites, nothing has ever came with anything nefarious.  They typically package the NI software untouched, along with the things that are shady separately.  That shady stuff might be executables that perform activation, DLLs or EXEs that replace functionality after an install, or applications that generate offline activation codes. 

That being said I'd still not encourage anyone from getting NI software, from anywhere other than NI's site.  Policies like this make that pretty difficult.

Yes it is usually the tools that are packed with it to create a fake license or modify the executable to remove the license check, that are at least suspicious or sometimes definitely not just trying to help the person who downloaded it. But I have seen more than once modified installers itself that were not the original one anymore. Why someone would do that other than to modify something inside it to serve a specific purpose definitely escapes me.

And I do know of one person who after installing such a hacked installer, I had the pleasure of rescuing his PC. It was nasty to say the least, but before crypto lockers were a commodity. It mostly was limited to having network and registry redirects that made almost every action impossible as it would open either a series of browser windows to all kind of spam, porn and other nefarious sites, or simply displaying a dialog that the executable could not be started. I managed to get it back to a workable state so the data could be rescued, but reformatted the whole disk anyways afterwards. There was simply no way to trust that all traces of nasties were really removed.

 

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4 hours ago, Rolf Kalbermatter said:

And I do know of one person who after installing such a hacked installer, I had the pleasure of rescuing his PC. It was nasty to say the least, but before crypto lockers were a commodity...

Oh I have gotten malware from a shady torrent.  Just never anything NI related, seems like it is a pretty niche category.  I do remember once getting photoshop for a friend, and the cracking team added a splash screen on the software startup that was an advertisement for climate change.  You had to sit through a 10 second page telling you about their efforts before the software would start.

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29 minutes ago, hooovahh said:

Oh I have gotten malware from a shady torrent.  Just never anything NI related, seems like it is a pretty niche category.  I do remember once getting photoshop for a friend, and the cracking team added a splash screen on the software startup that was an advertisement for climate change.  You had to sit through a 10 second page telling you about their efforts before the software would start.

Anything you are no sure of, just open in a VM first.

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38 minutes ago, hooovahh said:

Oh I have gotten malware from a shady torrent.  Just never anything NI related, seems like it is a pretty niche category.  I do remember once getting photoshop for a friend, and the cracking team added a splash screen on the software startup that was an advertisement for climate change.  You had to sit through a 10 second page telling you about their efforts before the software would start.

That's harmless 😆. And I think while possibly annoying, at least idealistic. It won't change anyone from driving even one mile less with his car, so likely very ineffective, but everybody needs a cause to live for. 😆 It's effect is also questionable as someone wanting to use cracked software is likely not very much concerned about the state of our earth at that moment, as long as he can start to use his badly anticipated program on his Intel Octium Core monster system with the newest NVidia super duper hardware accelerated graphic card, all of which is only consuming the power that an entire household normally would use. And if that happens in summer, the Airco only has to work a "tiny" little bit harder to get the air temperature to a "comfortable" 19 degree. In winter you even safe some energy as the central heating actually needs to burn less energy. 😎

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29 minutes ago, Rolf Kalbermatter said:

It's effect is also questionable as someone wanting to use cracked software is likely not very much concerned about the state of our earth at that moment, 

I don't understand the connection.  They were running it on a low power laptop.  They were a student.  They were (and continue to) be concerned with the climate.  They were (and continue) to consider themselves poor.  Not that it matters.

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1 hour ago, Rolf Kalbermatter said:

Already terminated, ahem, I mean expired. ☠️

There's something with your browser/connection/cookies/firewall/etc., because I downloaded both archives right now and nothing interrupted me. Anyway even if the links go dead, you know who to ask about reupping. 😉

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Yes there is. 😆 My Chrome browser is configured to simply not download exe files. The problem is that I wasn't looking for those specific files but rather trying to find something else.

And there is a difference now. A few days ago you could simply browse that entire directory tree and find out what was on there. Now the entire softlib subdirectory and all its contents is not browsable anymore. Someone shut a door somewhere. 😀 They probably couldn't rename the entire tree as then the download page for all the products might not work anymore. But that might be just a question of time too.

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6 minutes ago, Rolf Kalbermatter said:

Now the entire softlib subdirectory and all its contents is not browsable anymore.

Was it ever browsable? As I recall I've never been able to browse softlib directory. Maybe because I often don't login to NI site or don't have a valid SSP, when trying to fetch the server content.

They might introduce a hash system for the files as applied on many file sharing services (to force visitors to watch the ads). Then nobody would be able to browse through their servers. But it'll break many links, which are settled down in the manuals and other papers.

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6 hours ago, dadreamer said:

Was it ever browsable? As I recall I've never been able to browse softlib directory. Maybe because I often don't login to NI site or don't have a valid SSP, when trying to fetch the server content.

They might introduce a hash system for the files as applied on many file sharing services (to force visitors to watch the ads). Then nobody would be able to browse through their servers. But it'll break many links, which are settled down in the manuals and other papers.

Yes, when you posted that link I actually had a bit of a look around and Shaun did apparently the same, seeing his comment that nothing beyond LabVIEW 2018 could be found there.

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